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PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 6:52 pm    Post subject: Giuseppe PIAZZA and Rosaria AGRUSA marriage record Reply with quote

Dear friends,
I need help.
I have my great grandmother Rosaria AGRUSA birth records (she was born in Trappeto, province of Palermo on 17th August 1835), that document states an annotation she got married in Mazzara (Mazara del Vallo, province of Trapani) with her husband Giuseppe PIAZZA on Nov 16th, but I don't know if that was on 1885 or 1889.
Check below the first and second copy of her birth record





Check below the annotations



Both years have been checked by my dad and my friend the genealogist Rosario Salone , at Trapani State Archive, and nothing was found
Maybe it can be read as 1887?
Is there anyone who has microfilms of Mazara del Vallo civil registration on a permanent loan to nearest FHL? Maybe a search between 1880 and 1889 would be worth?
Any help or suggestion is greatly appreciated
Thanks in advance
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 7:07 pm    Post subject: Re: Giuseppe PIAZZA and Rosaria AGRUSA marriage record Reply with quote

Effettivamente l'anno sembra 1885; però devi ammettere che è strano che si sia sposata a 50 anni (a meno che non si tratti di un secondo matrimonio). C'è inoltre quell'annotazione apposta per errore che fa ritenere che non è che fossero così precisi nel compilare i registri! Immagino che tu abbia anche le date di nascita dei suoi figli: prova a fare un confonto per vedere quale può essere l'anno più probabile.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 7:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Giuseppe PIAZZA and Rosaria AGRUSA marriage record Reply with quote

Luca, si sono sposati in ritardo, è una lunga storia, l'ufficiale dello stato civile di Balestrate-Trappeto mi dice che la seconda annotazione è un errore.Pensi che sia 1885? 1887? o 1889?
L'unico figlio che i due ebbero era nato nel 1870 a Balestrate
grazie e ciao
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 7:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Giuseppe PIAZZA and Rosaria AGRUSA marriage record Reply with quote

L'anno, secondo me, è 1885. Il luogo sembra Mazzara (anche se è scritto Mozzora). In base a quante Parrocchie ci sono a Mazzara, potresti anche provare a far controllare (da quel tuo amico che abita giù) se si trovano i registri parrocchiali (anche se è strano che non ci sia l'atto nei registri dello Stato Civile). Dici che hanno provato all'Archivio di Stato: perché non fai controllare anche allo Stato Civile del Comune di Mazzara? (magari puoi anche provare con una telefonata, visto che hai la data precisa magari l'impiegato ti controlla al momento). In più all'anagrafe di Mazzara dovrebbero avere anche i decennali dei matrimoni: se l'impiegato non lo trova alla data del 16.11.1885 può provare nel decennale che va dal 1880 al 1890 e magari salta fuori.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 7:45 pm    Post subject: Re: Giuseppe PIAZZA and Rosaria AGRUSA marriage record Reply with quote

Grazie per il consiglio Luca, al limite aspettero Luglio quando andrò in ferie, magari qualche amico del forum ha i microfilm in "permanent loan" presso la locale chiesa mormone, qui a Trento il microfilm arriva dopo 100 giorni!!!
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 7:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Giuseppe PIAZZA and Rosaria AGRUSA marriage record Reply with quote

I'll email my FHC tomorrow and see if they can send me a copy of the films they have on permanent loan. Sometimes we get lucky that way.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 4:24 am    Post subject: Re: Giuseppe PIAZZA and Rosaria AGRUSA marriage record Reply with quote

I already sent a request a couple of months ago along with the certificate of $ 4 (remember?) and they didn't answer me yet, a couple of days ago I sent an email to FHL and they don't answer.
This is the number of microfilm for the Mazara del Vallo marriage

Matrimoni 1869-1899 FHL INTL Film
1467194 Items 1-2


This is the number of microfilm for Mazara del Vallo marriage Banns (maybe useful?)

Pubblicazioni 1871-1893 FHL INTL Film
1915508



Thanks in advance Nuccia!
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 12:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Giuseppe PIAZZA and Rosaria AGRUSA marriage record Reply with quote

I just emailed my FHC to see what they have on permanent loan. We should know soon.

Lets keep our fingers crossed!

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 2:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Giuseppe PIAZZA and Rosaria AGRUSA marriage record Reply with quote

Fingers and toes crossed for you Riccardo

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 5:53 pm    Post subject: Re: Giuseppe PIAZZA and Rosaria AGRUSA marriage record Reply with quote

Dear friends, a long lost relative of mine, belonging to AGRUSA line, who lives in Pennsylvania, she was contacted for me by Billiedekid, and she just provided to me the record I was looking for

Marriage record of Giuseppe PIAZZA and Rosaria AGRUSA

Marriage Act: # 79

Date: 16 October 1885 - Mazara del Vallo

Groom: Giuseppe Piazza, 34 years, fisherman, born in Alcamo
Father - Antonino Piazza, deceased, lived in Alcamo
Mother - Mattia Ferro, deceased, lived in Alcamo


Bride: Rosaria Agrusa, 50 years, housewife, born in Balestrate
Father - Giovanni Battista Agrusa, deceased, lived in Balestrate
Mother - Olimpia Galate, deceased, lived in Balestrate

Marriage Banns were posted on 4 October and 11 October 1885

Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!
Let's celebrate!!!!!!!!!!!
She made my day, no, my entire year
I didn't know the PIAZZA line was from Alcamo

party party party party party party

I love you all and thanks to all of you my real good friends of Gente
kisses and hugs
Riccardo kiss kiss kiss kiss kiss

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 5:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Giuseppe PIAZZA and Rosaria AGRUSA marriage record Reply with quote

kiss

Now we celebrate!!!

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 9:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Giuseppe PIAZZA and Rosaria AGRUSA marriage record Reply with quote

Thats wonderful Riccardo! Billie, once again you come through.

I am still waiting on the list from the FHC. She said I should email her again. I think I will for future reference.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 2:46 am    Post subject: Re: Giuseppe PIAZZA and Rosaria AGRUSA marriage record Reply with quote


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 4:19 am    Post subject: Re: Giuseppe PIAZZA and Rosaria AGRUSA marriage record Reply with quote

Super news Riccardo - I am really pleased for you...
(just that I prefer little 'wabbits')




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PostPosted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 4:23 am    Post subject: Re: Giuseppe PIAZZA and Rosaria AGRUSA marriage record Reply with quote

party party Woo hoo!!!!!

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