x
Toggle Content Register or Login  -  March 27, 2017, 7:10 am
Toggle Content User Info
Toggle Content Main Menu
Toggle Content Last Posts
Last 10 Forum Messages

Ghio in Portovenere
Last post by Marko in Southern Italy on Mar 14, 2017 at 17:31:06

Birth Record for GGF and GGM
Last post by debbiemfit in Northern Italy on Mar 12, 2017 at 21:49:52

Calabria Record
Last post by JoeBlack36 in Southern Italy on Mar 11, 2017 at 15:53:00

Cassivi from Ragusa
Last post by Italysearcher in Southern Italy on Feb 28, 2017 at 16:54:25

FONTANA-PENSA marriage between 1800 and 1814 in Como
Last post by denby in Northern Italy on Feb 27, 2017 at 00:00:12

Online Vital Records
Last post by debbiemfit in General Discussion Groups on Feb 26, 2017 at 21:15:51

Help finding city
Last post by Italysearcher in Southern Italy on Feb 05, 2017 at 11:10:06

Audino Birth Certificate - Benestare
Last post by drusilla in Where do I begin? on Jan 27, 2017 at 00:23:52

Genealogy for Barbera relatives
Last post by charliemis in Southern Italy on Jan 19, 2017 at 06:34:28

Looking for photos of Relatives from Casignana
Last post by jimmybarber12 in Southern Italy on Jan 18, 2017 at 04:49:09

Toggle Content Help Support this Site
Please support GentediMareGenealogy
Help us by supporting the future development of this site, or simply to say thank you.
Toggle Content EStore
Community Forums › How Can I locate my Family in Italy › Southern Italy › Rizzo, D'Angelo, Russo

     Forum FAQ   Search   Log in to check your private messages   Login  
Rizzo, D'Angelo, Russo


Post new topic   Reply to topic    Forum Index Southern Italy Printer Friendly Page

View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
RizRich
Mem
Mem


Joined: Mar 13, 2010
Posts: 29

PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 6:29 pm    Post subject: Rizzo, D'Angelo, Russo Reply with quote

I have been researching my relatives, and many of you have helped me get some valuable information. But I can't find any immigration info on some of my grandparents, even though I know they were born in Italy and died in the US.

Is it possible that 3 of my 4 grandparents just appeared in the US one day? All were born in the late 1800's. I believe all came to the US in the early 1900's.

Can anyone steer me in the right direction?
Back to top
View user's profile
nuccia
Admin
Admin


Joined: Jul 10, 2007
Posts: 4359
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada

PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 6:44 am    Post subject: Re: Rizzo, D'Angelo, Russo Reply with quote

If you post their names and years of birth/death we can try to help. The names may just be mis spelled or they may have come through a different port than New York.

_________________
nuccia
Italian Surname Database

Calabria Exchange
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website
RizRich
Mem
Mem


Joined: Mar 13, 2010
Posts: 29

PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 11:11 am    Post subject: Re: Rizzo, D'Angelo, Russo Reply with quote

Nuccia:

You and others have provided me information on my family in the past. If you do a search of me under Author you will see. No-one has found any information. I was just wondering why my grandparents immigration records can't be found. Is this common that there are no records of immigrants entering the US?
Back to top
View user's profile
nuccia
Admin
Admin


Joined: Jul 10, 2007
Posts: 4359
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada

PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 11:18 am    Post subject: Re: Rizzo, D'Angelo, Russo Reply with quote

No its not common but yes it is common. I have still to find my great uncles records so either he came through a different port or his manifest has been destroyed. Approximately 10 per cent of manifest did go missing around the year of 1902 so this may have happened with your grandparents as well.

_________________
nuccia
Italian Surname Database

Calabria Exchange
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website
RizRich
Mem
Mem


Joined: Mar 13, 2010
Posts: 29

PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 11:30 am    Post subject: Re: Rizzo, D'Angelo, Russo Reply with quote

Thank you. Based on their ages and the dates their children were born, 1902 could be the immigration year for Giovanni Rizzo & Rose D'Angelo Rizzo. As for Giuseppe Russo, he probably came after 1902.
Back to top
View user's profile
nuccia
Admin
Admin


Joined: Jul 10, 2007
Posts: 4359
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada

PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 11:34 am    Post subject: Re: Rizzo, D'Angelo, Russo Reply with quote

Ok. So we'll keep looking. Hopefully we can come up with something. Have you been able to locate a Naturalization certificate? That may have information on it. Or his WW1 Draft Cards (although my Uncle was also born in 1876 and I had problems finding his).

_________________
nuccia
Italian Surname Database

Calabria Exchange
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website
RizRich
Mem
Mem


Joined: Mar 13, 2010
Posts: 29

PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 11:56 am    Post subject: Re: Rizzo, D'Angelo, Russo Reply with quote

Here is the Naturalization Certificate and Draft Registration card for Giuseppe Russo.
Back to top
View user's profile
nuccia
Admin
Admin


Joined: Jul 10, 2007
Posts: 4359
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada

PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 8:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Rizzo, D'Angelo, Russo Reply with quote

Edited - Wrong Info Posted

_________________
nuccia
Italian Surname Database

Calabria Exchange


Last edited by nuccia on Mon Mar 28, 2011 10:44 pm; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website
RizRich
Mem
Mem


Joined: Mar 13, 2010
Posts: 29

PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 8:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Rizzo, D'Angelo, Russo Reply with quote

Thank you, but this is not them.
Rosa is my grandmother on my father's side of the family. She was born in 1877 and would have been 19 in 1896, not 27. Her husband is Giovanni Rizzo.
Giuseppe is my grandfather on my mother's side. He was born in 1895 and would have been a year old, not 51. His wife is Filomena Molinaro who arrived in 1913 with her mother.
Back to top
View user's profile
nuccia
Admin
Admin


Joined: Jul 10, 2007
Posts: 4359
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada

PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 10:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Rizzo, D'Angelo, Russo Reply with quote

I'm sorry - I tried using the Ellis Island site because Steve Morse's site wasn't working and I got all confused so I started with what you told me and looked for the 1930 Census.


1930 United States Federal Census
about John Ritz
Name: John Ritz
Home in 1930: Glassboro, Gloucester, New Jersey
View Map
Age: 53
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Rosa Ritz
Race: White
Occupation:
View image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
John Ritz 53
Rosa Ritz 52
Frank Ritz 16
John Ritz 14
Tony Ritz 11

Using the info listed I had no luck with the parents so I decided to do a partial search on the first child and I finally found Rosa's ship manifest!

Rosa D'Angelo leaving her father in Italy - San Pier Niceto Messina, Italy

Traveling with:

Son Rizzo Giuseppe 11
Daughter Nicolina 7
Son Vittorio 5
Son Pietro 3

Going to see their father, Giovanni Rizzo in Elmora, PA.




Page 1


Page 2

_________________
nuccia
Italian Surname Database

Calabria Exchange
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website
RizRich
Mem
Mem


Joined: Mar 13, 2010
Posts: 29

PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 10:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Rizzo, D'Angelo, Russo Reply with quote

Nuccia:

I know the census info is correct. Frank Ritz is my father, though the name is actually Rizzo. (The youngest brother, Anthony, is the only one of the seven children that kept the name of Ritz).

As for the ship manifest, they did live in Elmora. PA and my father was born in Elmora in 1913. And the ages of the children seems right. But some of the names are not right.

Son Rizzo Giuseppe 11 - Joseph was the oldest of the 7 children, From what I know, he was the only one born in Italy
Daughter Nicolina 7 - There was a daughter named Clara. Maybe she had another name that I didn't know about. Her children are still alive, though they are probably in their 80's. I may be able to get some information from them.
Son Vittorio 5 - There was a daughter named Victoria
Son Pietro 3 - There was a son named Pietro.

Thank you very much for the information. Maybe my other grandparents came into Boston, also. My one grandmother, that I have info on, came in through Phila.

Karen
Back to top
View user's profile
nuccia
Admin
Admin


Joined: Jul 10, 2007
Posts: 4359
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada

PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 11:10 pm    Post subject: Re: Rizzo, D'Angelo, Russo Reply with quote

Nicolina is probably Clara and Vittorio is Victoria. Manifests sometimes have mistakes on them (but they are minor ones in this case). The only way to be sure is to try and locate their birth certificates or other documents if you can. Also, by reading the manifest it says Rosa was in the USA before between 1904-1909 so this is not the first trip. That.s why the children were born in PA. but went back to Italy - possibly to visit Rosa's parents? At least the 1930 census states that they were born there. I need to be up for work early in the morning so I will look some more tomorrow for your other relatives.

_________________
nuccia
Italian Surname Database

Calabria Exchange
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website
RizRich
Mem
Mem


Joined: Mar 13, 2010
Posts: 29

PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 1:22 pm    Post subject: Re: Rizzo, D'Angelo, Russo Reply with quote

Hi Nuccia:

I went to the library today to use Ancestry.com. I found something that could be Giuseppe Russo, but not sure. Arriving in Boston on Sept. 3, 1913 on the Cretic, Line 23.
It says something about a friend named Giovanni. I always remember hearing, as a child that he lived with John Retino in Phila. when he first came. I don't know if they came together or just ended up living in the same place.

Also, I tried searching to see if they came through Canada but did not have any luck.

The library only gives you 2 hours on the Internet. And the library version of Ancestry.com is not easy to navigate.

Karen
Back to top
View user's profile
  Page 1 of 1All times are GMT - 4 Hours

Post new topic   Reply to topic    Forum Index Southern Italy Printer Friendly Page

  
 
Jump to:  



You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum



Hosted By Site5.com
The logos and trademarks used on this site are the property of Gente di Mare Genealogy.
We are not responsible for comments posted by our users, as they are the opinions of the poster.
Interactive software released under GNU GPL, Code Credits, Privacy Policy
TCD_ItalianGene © Gente di Mare Genealogy