x
Toggle Content Register or Login  -  March 28, 2024, 11:49 pm
Toggle Content User Info

Welcome Anonymous

Nickname
Password

Membership:
Latest: LucilleDZ
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 2016

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 308
Total: 308
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: Photo Gallery
02: My Account
03: Community Forums
04: Community Forums
05: Community Forums
06: Community Forums
07: Community Forums
08: Community Forums
09: My Account
10: My Account
11: My Account
12: My Account
13: My Account
14: Community Forums
15: Community Forums
16: Community Forums
17: Community Forums
18: Community Forums
19: Community Forums
20: Community Forums
21: Community Forums
22: My Account
23: Community Forums
24: Community Forums
25: My Account
26: Community Forums
27: Community Forums
28: My Account
29: Community Forums
30: Community Forums
31: My Account
32: My Account
33: My Account
34: Community Forums
35: Home
36: Community Forums
37: Community Forums
38: Community Forums
39: Photo Gallery
40: Community Forums
41: Community Forums
42: Community Forums
43: Community Forums
44: Community Forums
45: Community Forums
46: Home
47: Statistics
48: My Account
49: Community Forums
50: Statistics
51: Community Forums
52: Community Forums
53: Community Forums
54: Community Forums
55: Community Forums
56: Community Forums
57: Community Forums
58: Community Forums
59: Community Forums
60: Community Forums
61: My Account
62: Community Forums
63: Community Forums
64: My Account
65: My Account
66: My Account
67: Community Forums
68: My Account
69: Community Forums
70: My Account
71: My Account
72: My Account
73: Community Forums
74: Stories Archive
75: My Account
76: My Account
77: Community Forums
78: My Account
79: My Account
80: Photo Gallery
81: My Account
82: Community Forums
83: Community Forums
84: My Account
85: My Account
86: My Account
87: My Account
88: Community Forums
89: Community Forums
90: Community Forums
91: Community Forums
92: My Account
93: Community Forums
94: My Account
95: My Account
96: My Account
97: Community Forums
98: Community Forums
99: Photo Gallery
100: Community Forums
101: Statistics
102: Community Forums
103: Home
104: Community Forums
105: Community Forums
106: Community Forums
107: Community Forums
108: Photo Gallery
109: Community Forums
110: My Account
111: Community Forums
112: Community Forums
113: Community Forums
114: Photo Gallery
115: My Account
116: Community Forums
117: Community Forums
118: Community Forums
119: Community Forums
120: My Account
121: My Account
122: Community Forums
123: Community Forums
124: My Account
125: Community Forums
126: Community Forums
127: Community Forums
128: My Account
129: Community Forums
130: Home
131: Community Forums
132: Community Forums
133: Community Forums
134: Community Forums
135: Community Forums
136: Community Forums
137: Community Forums
138: Community Forums
139: My Account
140: My Account
141: Community Forums
142: My Account
143: My Account
144: Community Forums
145: Community Forums
146: Community Forums
147: Community Forums
148: Community Forums
149: Community Forums
150: Community Forums
151: My Account
152: My Account
153: My Account
154: Community Forums
155: Photo Gallery
156: Community Forums
157: My Account
158: My Account
159: Community Forums
160: My Account
161: Community Forums
162: Statistics
163: Community Forums
164: Community Forums
165: Community Forums
166: Community Forums
167: Community Forums
168: Community Forums
169: My Account
170: My Account
171: Community Forums
172: Community Forums
173: Community Forums
174: Photo Gallery
175: My Account
176: Photo Gallery
177: Photo Gallery
178: My Account
179: Community Forums
180: Photo Gallery
181: Community Forums
182: Community Forums
183: Statistics
184: Community Forums
185: My Account
186: Home
187: Community Forums
188: Community Forums
189: My Account
190: My Account
191: My Account
192: Community Forums
193: Community Forums
194: Community Forums
195: Home
196: My Account
197: My Account
198: Community Forums
199: Community Forums
200: Community Forums
201: My Account
202: My Account
203: Community Forums
204: Community Forums
205: Community Forums
206: Community Forums
207: Community Forums
208: Community Forums
209: Community Forums
210: Community Forums
211: My Account
212: My Account
213: My Account
214: Community Forums
215: My Account
216: Community Forums
217: Community Forums
218: My Account
219: Community Forums
220: Community Forums
221: Community Forums
222: My Account
223: Community Forums
224: Photo Gallery
225: My Account
226: Community Forums
227: Home
228: Community Forums
229: Community Forums
230: Community Forums
231: Community Forums
232: Community Forums
233: My Account
234: My Account
235: Community Forums
236: Community Forums
237: My Account
238: Community Forums
239: My Account
240: Community Forums
241: My Account
242: My Account
243: Community Forums
244: Community Forums
245: Community Forums
246: Community Forums
247: My Account
248: My Account
249: Community Forums
250: Photo Gallery
251: My Account
252: Community Forums
253: My Account
254: My Account
255: Community Forums
256: My Account
257: Community Forums
258: News
259: Community Forums
260: Photo Gallery
261: Community Forums
262: My Account
263: My Account
264: Community Forums
265: Community Forums
266: My Account
267: Community Forums
268: Community Forums
269: Community Forums
270: Community Forums
271: Community Forums
272: My Account
273: My Account
274: Community Forums
275: Community Forums
276: Photo Gallery
277: Statistics
278: Community Forums
279: Community Forums
280: My Account
281: My Account
282: My Account
283: My Account
284: My Account
285: Community Forums
286: Community Forums
287: Community Forums
288: Community Forums
289: Community Forums
290: Community Forums
291: Community Forums
292: Community Forums
293: Community Forums
294: Community Forums
295: Community Forums
296: Community Forums
297: Community Forums
298: My Account
299: Community Forums
300: Community Forums
301: Home
302: Statistics
303: Community Forums
304: Community Forums
305: Statistics
306: My Account
307: Community Forums
308: Community Forums

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
Toggle Content Main Menu
Toggle Content Last Posts
Last 10 Forum Messages

bocca
Last post by tennino in General Discussion Groups on Jan 16, 2021 at 16:56:41

Towns in Frosinone that were part of former Vatican States a
Last post by Italysearcher in Central Italy on Feb 19, 2019 at 09:15:58

Dual Citizenship
Last post by Curci-Ghio in General Discussion Groups on Nov 18, 2018 at 15:30:54

Please Help Translate Letter
Last post by nuccia in Translations on Oct 20, 2018 at 06:18:43

Family in Cittanova
Last post by russojoseph1 in Translations on Oct 14, 2018 at 12:28:20

DNA Testing
Last post by nuccia in General Discussion Groups on Sep 29, 2018 at 10:39:30

Trento -Atto di Nascita - Frazione di Poia, Comune di Comano
Last post by exevans in Northern Italy on Mar 28, 2018 at 00:45:37

Translating written postcard
Last post by mekanic in Translations on Jan 18, 2018 at 13:58:50

Translating written postcard
Last post by mekanic in Translations on Jan 18, 2018 at 13:53:38

State of the Family Record & Other State Records
Last post by debbiemfit in Northern Italy on Jan 02, 2018 at 23:14:28

Toggle Content Help Support this Site
Please support GentediMareGenealogy
Help us by supporting the future development of this site, or simply to say thank you.
Toggle Content EStore
Community Forums › General › General Discussion Groups › Are there any directories?

     Forum FAQ   Search   Log in to check your private messages   Login  
Are there any directories?
Want to share something new or just have fun? You can do that here.
Go to page 1, 2  Next

Post new topic   Reply to topic    Forum Index General Discussion Groups Printer Friendly Page

View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
MauroMags
Explorer
Explorer


Joined: Jul 15, 2007
Posts: 259
Location: New Jersey

PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 11:40 pm    Post subject: Are there any directories? Reply with quote

Do any city directories exist in Southern Italy? And if so, did they exist in the 1880s?

Lets say i need to know who lived at a certain address in 1881, is there anyway i could find that info out?

thanks again. I hope all is well Very Happy

~Mauro
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
BillieDeKid
V.I.P.
V.I.P.


Joined: Oct 26, 2007
Posts: 1221
Location: Illinois

PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 11:10 am    Post subject: Re: Are there any directories? Reply with quote

Hi Mauro,

I believe the italian census records list the address of each person or family. If you have a specific comune you may want to write to the registrar for the census records for a particular year or range of years. Maybe Riccardo could comment on this and give you a definitive answer.

_________________
Elizabeth
Brognaturo On Line
Brognaturo Civil Records
Mangiardi, Tedeschi/Tedesco, Zangari, Coda, DeFrancesco, Ierulli, Bava, Daniele, Valente
Back to top
View user's profile
ricbru
Researcher
Researcher


Joined: Jul 10, 2007
Posts: 427
Location: TRENTO - ITALIA

PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 11:26 am    Post subject: Re: Are there any directories? Reply with quote

Mauro,
Census in Italy start after the unification (1870). It is made every 10 years.
This kind of census used to state just how many people lived in the city/town/village.
Sometimes Fogli di famiglia can be found in the municipalities, but not always.
Also Family record office (Ufficio Anagrafe) starts from 1930, so, if you want to know the name of the people living to a certain address you can know it after 1930s
You can always write to municipality and make a request.
You never know
Good luck
Riccardo

_________________
Riccardo





HELP ME to find the ship manifest of 1902 to USA, about my GGFather Francesco Paolo BRUNO from Trapani (1860/1938)
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
MauroMags
Explorer
Explorer


Joined: Jul 15, 2007
Posts: 259
Location: New Jersey

PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 4:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Are there any directories? Reply with quote

Thanks Billie & Riccardo for the advice.

Riccardo,

The time period I'm looking for is 1881. What is the name of the Census that i should be looking for? And where exactly would i send such a request?

thanks again,
Mauro
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
ricbru
Researcher
Researcher


Joined: Jul 10, 2007
Posts: 427
Location: TRENTO - ITALIA

PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 5:01 pm    Post subject: Re: Are there any directories? Reply with quote

Dear Mauro,
you should send a request to Registrar and Family record offices ( Ufficio Servizi Demografici) writing in Italian, if there is any census of 1880/1881 - kept in their office - about the person you are looking for.
Maybe if you write that letter, I can easily translate it into italian for you
bye Riccardo

_________________
Riccardo





HELP ME to find the ship manifest of 1902 to USA, about my GGFather Francesco Paolo BRUNO from Trapani (1860/1938)
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
MauroMags
Explorer
Explorer


Joined: Jul 15, 2007
Posts: 259
Location: New Jersey

PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 1:16 am    Post subject: Re: Are there any directories? Reply with quote

Actually Riccardo, instead of wasting your offer on a request i'm not sure about, I would like to instead ask you to translate a letter requesting my GGF & GGM marriage record from Molfetta.

They got married in 1915 (the LDS microfilm records for Molfetta end in 1910). So i would like to write the following letter in hopes that they can send me a transcript of their marriage record.

Dear Sir/Madam

My name is ....... I am writing to request a copy of the marriage record of my great-grandparents, Vincenzo Ghiberti & Maria Luigia Amato. From other records i have found that they were married on April 21 or April 25, 1915. The marriage record number is #98.

Please send a copy of this record to the following address (.....) and please inform me about any fees for the copies

thank you,
Mauro

If there is a better procedure for writing this kind of letter, i am totally open to suggestion. Should i be asking for the "Allegati" instead, since they provide more records?

thank you very much!
Mauro


Last edited by MauroMags on Sun Jun 08, 2008 1:46 am; edited 3 times in total
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
MauroMags
Explorer
Explorer


Joined: Jul 15, 2007
Posts: 259
Location: New Jersey

PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 1:20 am    Post subject: Re: Are there any directories? Reply with quote

Here is a record of their marriage i extracted from my GGF birth record


Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
MauroMags
Explorer
Explorer


Joined: Jul 15, 2007
Posts: 259
Location: New Jersey

PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 1:24 am    Post subject: Re: Are there any directories? Reply with quote

Here is the other one




Riccardo,

Once again, i really appreciate any help you can offer


~Mauro
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
ricbru
Researcher
Researcher


Joined: Jul 10, 2007
Posts: 427
Location: TRENTO - ITALIA

PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 4:03 am    Post subject: Re: Are there any directories? Reply with quote

Mauro, please follow my suggestions.
With this letter I let you request marriage act, marriage bann and marriage allegati (if any). I also write that you put inside a copy of your ID (don't worry about that, no one is going to steal your personal informations, the law states that when someone makes a request to office of Public Administration he needs to show his own ID), a middle size envelope and a couple of international reply coupons, so you pay in advance their costs, so this way no one from Molfetta civil record office deny to send u the documents you need because they can not afford it or because u didn't send any money or anything to afford the costs from your pocket. This way for sure they are going to reply you.
I also suggest you to put inside the annotations of marriage at the boarder of their birth records.
Below u find the translation:

"Egregio Signor Sindaco, Egregio Ufficiale dello Stato civile,
mi chiamo...........Le scrivo per richiedere la seguente documentazione:
1) la copia integrale dell'atto di matrimonio,
2) la copia integrale della pubblicazione di matrimonio e
3) la copia integrale di eventuali allegati dello sposalizio dei miei bisnonni:
- Vincenzo GHIBERTI e Maria Luigia AMATO sposi il 21 o 25 aprile 1915 a Molfetta, atto n. 98.
Allego alla presente:
-copia del mio documento di identità,
- alcuni buoni di risposta (IRS- International Reply Coupons - facilmente scambiabili all'ufficio postale per ottenere regolare affrancatura),
- una busta per l'invio dei documenti e le annotazioni a margine del loro atto di nascita.
La prego di spedire il tutto al seguente indirizzo (.........).
La ringrazio in anticipo e rimango in attesa di cordiale riscontro.
Distinti saluti
Mauro"

I hope it helps
bye Riccardo

MauroMags wrote:
Actually Riccardo, instead of wasting your offer on a request i'm not sure about, I would like to instead ask you to translate a letter requesting my GGF & GGM marriage record from Molfetta.

They got married in 1915 (the LDS microfilm records for Molfetta end in 1910). So i would like to write the following letter in hopes that they can send me a transcript of their marriage record.

Dear Sir/Madam

My name is ....... I am writing to request a copy of the marriage record of my great-grandparents, Vincenzo Ghiberti & Maria Luigia Amato. From other records i have found that they were married on April 21 or April 25, 1915. The marriage record number is #98.

Please send a copy of this record to the following address (.....) and please inform me about any fees for the copies

thank you,
Mauro

If there is a better procedure for writing this kind of letter, i am totally open to suggestion. Should i be asking for the "Allegati" instead, since they provide more records?

thank you very much!
Mauro

_________________
Riccardo





HELP ME to find the ship manifest of 1902 to USA, about my GGFather Francesco Paolo BRUNO from Trapani (1860/1938)
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
JamesBianco
Researcher
Researcher


Joined: Jul 10, 2007
Posts: 645
Location: Westfield, MA.

PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 6:35 am    Post subject: Re: Are there any directories? Reply with quote

One thing I would like to mention Mauro, is that the LDS microfilmed at the Archive Level not the Comune. The atto#'s and index will be different.

I wrote to the Comune di Reggio Calabria with a copy of the index entry and exact date of death for my great-grandfather I copied from the LDS microfilm. They sent me back a letter stating they did not have the record.

Frustrating!

_________________

Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website
MauroMags
Explorer
Explorer


Joined: Jul 15, 2007
Posts: 259
Location: New Jersey

PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 12:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Are there any directories? Reply with quote

Thank you so much Riccardo! Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy I plan to get this out as soon as possible.


James, i see your point. I guess i'll send it first to the commune, and if there is no reply, i'll send another request to the state archive.


Are international reply coupons available at any US post office? I've never seen them before?

thanks again,
Mauro
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
MauroMags
Explorer
Explorer


Joined: Jul 15, 2007
Posts: 259
Location: New Jersey

PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 1:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Are there any directories? Reply with quote

Can someone help me find the address for the Ufficio Servizi Demografici for Molfetta?
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
ricbru
Researcher
Researcher


Joined: Jul 10, 2007
Posts: 427
Location: TRENTO - ITALIA

PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 2:29 pm    Post subject: Re: Are there any directories? Reply with quote

Comune
Ufficio Servizi Demografici
Piazza Municipio 5
70056 Molfetta (BA)
Italy

I hope it helps,
bye Riccardo

p.s. message for Jim: I don't know what happened in your research, but I would like to let you know that the registrar, at the tim he reports any civil record (birth, marriage, marriage bann, death, or citizenship), he has to make two copies of it, in two different books, puting the same number of record.
One copy of the book is always kept at civil record office, the second copy of the book goes (at the end of each year) to local courthouse (today with the new law goes to local government office) and this second copy goes to local state archive after 70 years. I hope it helps, bye Riccardo

_________________
Riccardo





HELP ME to find the ship manifest of 1902 to USA, about my GGFather Francesco Paolo BRUNO from Trapani (1860/1938)
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
JamesBianco
Researcher
Researcher


Joined: Jul 10, 2007
Posts: 645
Location: Westfield, MA.

PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 5:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Are there any directories? Reply with quote

ricbru wrote:


p.s. message for Jim: I don't know what happened in your research, but I would like to let you know that the registrar, at the tim he reports any civil record (birth, marriage, marriage bann, death, or citizenship), he has to make two copies of it, in two different books, puting the same number of record.
One copy of the book is always kept at civil record office, the second copy of the book goes (at the end of each year) to local courthouse (today with the new law goes to local government office) and this second copy goes to local state archive after 70 years. I hope it helps, bye Riccardo

I don't know what happened either! But the town did not have the record, this happened I believe to Nuccia as well. I had to order the corresponding LDS film for Reggio death acts (Archive) to get a copy of the record. I emailed the comune and then wrote, giving date of death, wife's name and even his parents. When that didnt work, Nuccia emailed them as well, both times they had no record of his death.

Frustrating! But in the end I got his death act Smile

_________________

Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website
MauroMags
Explorer
Explorer


Joined: Jul 15, 2007
Posts: 259
Location: New Jersey

PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 9:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Are there any directories? Reply with quote

Riccardo,

I have one more question...

If i were to send a request to a church archive, like this one....Archivio diocesano di Molfetta

Would it be smart to send a donation? I'm not sure since it would be a request to an archive and not to a specific church.

If i should send a donation, how should i send it?

thanks again,
Mauro
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
  Page 1 of 2All times are GMT - 4 Hours

Post new topic   Reply to topic    Forum Index General Discussion Groups Printer Friendly Page

  
 
Jump to:  



You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum



Hosted By Site5.com
The logos and trademarks used on this site are the property of Gente di Mare Genealogy.
We are not responsible for comments posted by our users, as they are the opinions of the poster.
Interactive software released under GNU GPL, Code Credits, Privacy Policy
TCD_ItalianGene © Gente di Mare Genealogy