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BillieDeKid
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 6:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Translation Help Reply with quote

No Livio. I am the one that made the confusion. I thought Luca said that Agostino was not a Sapienza but he wasn't sure because the quality of the document posted was so poor. So I tried to clean it up and reposted it for him to take a look.

So please don't think you made confusion..........if anyone made confusion it was me Embarassed

Ok Carole..........now I need a hug!!

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 7:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Translation Help Reply with quote

BillieDeKid wrote:
No Livio. I am the one that made the confusion. I thought Luca said that Agostino was not a Sapienza but he wasn't sure because the quality of the document posted was so poor. So I tried to clean it up and reposted it for him to take a look.

So please don't think you made confusion..........if anyone made confusion it was me Embarassed

Ok Carole..........now I need a hug!!

You aren't in confusion ! I said that. I think Agostino was not a Sapienza (98%), but to be sure (at 100%) I shall have a better image. So don't worry.
I made confusion too:

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I was wrong. Luigi there isn't. I confused Luigi (Aloysius in Latin) whit Alfio (Alphius in Latin). Sorry
Giovanni (Jonny) and Joannes (in Latin) is the same.
Luca

The important is that, now, Rita has more information than 15 days ago!

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 7:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Translation Help Reply with quote

OK - so now everyone's running round saying 'Mea culpa, Mea culpa - Mea massima culpa!'....but at the end of the day you are all doing a GREAT job sorting all this out - so here's a huge hug for you all



I leave the WHAPS to 'other' people... Wink (that way I get to be Mrs. Nice Guy)

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 8:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Translation Help Reply with quote

Thanks for the dancing bananas Luca! They look cute.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 9:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Translation Help Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:53 pm    Post subject: Re: Translation Help Reply with quote

Luca and Livio.........Three more in Latin

Baptism of Salvatore Sapienza
Date Baptised – 18??
Father – Giuseppe (Joseph) Sapienza
Mother – Lucia Distefano
God parents – Nicolosi ?
http://img352.imageshack.us/img352/1553/goodsalvatorechurchrecoml3.jpg


Baptism of Joseph (Giuseppe) or Josephina (Giuseppa) Sapienza
Date Baptised – 1893?
Father – Angelo ? Sapienza
Mother - ?
God parents - ?
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/8030/goodmaybeangelosapienzagb7.jpg


Baptism of Barbarino Romeo
Date Baptised – 1873
Father – Rosario Romeo
Mother – Domenica Consoli
God Parents - ? Gratia
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/8671/barbarinoromeofb7.jpg

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 1:33 am    Post subject: Re: Translation Help Reply with quote

Livio, This film is very hard to read and it really isn't anyone's fault. neclord I know each and everyone of you is trying their best to help. Thank you. kiss Very Happy kiss
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 5:17 am    Post subject: Re: Translation Help Reply with quote

Baptism of Salvatore Sapienza
Date Baptised – 1892, January 6
Date born - 1891, Dec 24
Father – Giuseppe (Joseph) Sapienza
Mother – Lucia Distefano
God mother – Maria Nicolosi
http://img352.imageshack.us/img352/1553/goodsalvatorechurchrecoml3.jpg


Baptism of Josepha (Giuseppa) Sapienza
Date Baptised – 1893, April 18
Date Born - 1893, April 10

Father – Michelangelo Sapienza
Mother - Blagia Sava ???
God mother - Domenica Motta
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/8030/goodmaybeangelosapienzagb7.jpg


Baptism of Barbarino Romeo
Date Baptised – 1863, June 11
Date Born - 1863, June 5

Father – Rosario Romeo
Mother – Domenica Consoli
God mother - Gratia (Grazia) Romeo
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/8671/barbarinoromeofb7.jpg

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 12:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Translation Help Reply with quote

Thank you Livio kiss

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 9:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Translation Help Reply with quote

I found Eugenio Sapienza! Very Happy Momma mia! My cousin just told me that I still need to find Angelo,Dominick, and Grazia. Very Happy . I just don't know of when they were born but he feels they should be on this same film. Very Happy I don't know how they did it back then but I feel I was just in a whirl wind! ~Rita


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 10:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Translation Help Reply with quote

[quote="Luca"]
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Maria Guardia (if so very, very strange name)
Baptized 1885 Sept 24, born Sept 22 daughter of Lucia Distefano and Giuseppe (Joseph in Latin) Sapienza. Godmother Caterina Nicolaso

Luca and Livio

Is it possible that Maria Guardia could be Maria Grazia? This might account for the "Grazia" - daughter of Giuseppe (Joseph)?

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 12:00 am    Post subject: Re: Translation Help Reply with quote

Livio and Luca - Another baptismal record

Baptism of ? Euginio Sapienza
Born – 18??
Father – Giuseppe (Joseph)
Mother – Lucia Borcetto ?
God parent – Gratia Sapienza

Below Euginio’s and Joseph’s names (on the left) is a female name I believe it says Lucia Borsatto (mothers name)?
img177.imageshack.us/i...pedjl7.jpg

And thanks again Livio and Luca for all that you're doing kiss

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 4:36 am    Post subject: Re: Translation Help Reply with quote

Vxxxx Eugenio Sapienza
Date Baptized - 1896, March 25
Born – 1896, March 20
Father – Giuseppe (Joseph)
Mother – Lucia xxxxx ?
God mother – Gratia Sapienza

Below Eugenio’s and Joseph’s names (on the left) there is the mother's name Lucia xxxxxx ?
img177.imageshack.us/i...pedjl7.jpg

Once again, we need a larger picture... please don't crop it before posting.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 5:59 am    Post subject: Re: Translation Help Reply with quote

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"...Lucia xxxxx ?"

Looks a bit like Borsitto - there seems to be a 'dot' over the letter before the double 't'...

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 7:05 am    Post subject: Re: Translation Help Reply with quote

liviomoreno wrote:
Vxxxx Eugenio Sapienza
Date Baptized - 1896, March 25
Born – 1896, March (20) potrebbe essere Sexta (6)
Father – Giuseppe (Joseph)
Mother – Lucia xxxxx ?
God mother – Gratia Sapienza

Below Eugenio’s and Joseph’s names (on the left) there is the mother's name Lucia xxxxxx ?
img177.imageshack.us/i...pedjl7.jpg

Once again, we need a larger picture... please don't crop it before posting.
For Rita. Now that you have almost all the baptismal documents with exact dates, why don't you ask for the civil documents? Perhaps we'll be able to know the true surname of Lucia!
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