x
Toggle Content Register or Login  -  April 21, 2025, 9:46 am
Toggle Content User Info

Welcome Anonymous

Nickname
Password

Membership:
Latest: LucilleDZ
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 2016

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 321
Total: 321
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: My Private Messages
02: Home
03: Community Forums
04: Community Forums
05: News
06: Home
07: Community Forums
08: Home
09: Community Forums
10: Community Forums
11: My Private Messages
12: Home
13: My Private Messages
14: Home
15: News
16: Home
17: Community Forums
18: Home
19: Members List
20: Home
21: Home
22: Home
23: Home
24: Home
25: Home
26: Home
27: Home
28: Home
29: My Private Messages
30: Community Forums
31: Home
32: Community Forums
33: Home
34: Home
35: My Private Messages
36: My Private Messages
37: Home
38: My Private Messages
39: Home
40: News
41: Community Forums
42: My Private Messages
43: Community Forums
44: Community Forums
45: Community Forums
46: My Private Messages
47: Home
48: My Private Messages
49: Members List
50: Home
51: My Private Messages
52: Home
53: Members List
54: Home
55: Home
56: Home
57: My Account
58: Statistics
59: Home
60: My Private Messages
61: Home
62: Community Forums
63: Home
64: My Private Messages
65: Community Forums
66: Community Forums
67: Home
68: My Private Messages
69: Statistics
70: Community Forums
71: Home
72: News
73: Community Forums
74: Community Forums
75: Home
76: Community Forums
77: My Private Messages
78: Home
79: Home
80: Home
81: Home
82: Members List
83: Home
84: Home
85: Home
86: Community Forums
87: Community Forums
88: Home
89: Home
90: Community Forums
91: Home
92: Home
93: My Private Messages
94: Community Forums
95: Community Forums
96: My Account
97: Community Forums
98: Community Forums
99: Home
100: Home
101: Home
102: Home
103: Members List
104: Community Forums
105: Community Forums
106: Community Forums
107: Home
108: News
109: Members List
110: Home
111: Home
112: Community Forums
113: Home
114: Home
115: Statistics
116: Home
117: Home
118: Photo Gallery
119: Community Forums
120: My Private Messages
121: Home
122: My Private Messages
123: Members List
124: Home
125: My Private Messages
126: Community Forums
127: Home
128: Home
129: Home
130: Community Forums
131: Home
132: Home
133: Home
134: Community Forums
135: Home
136: Community Forums
137: Home
138: Home
139: Home
140: My Private Messages
141: Community Forums
142: Home
143: Home
144: Home
145: Home
146: Home
147: Community Forums
148: My Private Messages
149: Home
150: Community Forums
151: Home
152: Home
153: Community Forums
154: Community Forums
155: My Private Messages
156: Community Forums
157: Home
158: Home
159: Community Forums
160: Community Forums
161: Community Forums
162: Community Forums
163: Home
164: Home
165: Home
166: Home
167: My Private Messages
168: Home
169: Community Forums
170: Home
171: Photo Gallery
172: Home
173: My Account
174: My Private Messages
175: Photo Gallery
176: Community Forums
177: Home
178: Home
179: Home
180: My Private Messages
181: Home
182: Home
183: Home
184: Community Forums
185: Home
186: Home
187: Home
188: Community Forums
189: Home
190: Community Forums
191: My Private Messages
192: Home
193: Home
194: Home
195: Community Forums
196: My Private Messages
197: Home
198: Community Forums
199: Community Forums
200: My Private Messages
201: Statistics
202: Community Forums
203: Home
204: Community Forums
205: My Private Messages
206: Community Forums
207: News
208: Home
209: Statistics
210: Home
211: Community Forums
212: Community Forums
213: Home
214: Home
215: Home
216: Home
217: Home
218: Community Forums
219: Home
220: My Private Messages
221: News
222: Home
223: Home
224: Members List
225: My Private Messages
226: Home
227: Home
228: Home
229: Home
230: Home
231: My Account
232: Home
233: Statistics
234: Home
235: Home
236: Home
237: Community Forums
238: Home
239: Home
240: Community Forums
241: Members List
242: Home
243: Home
244: Home
245: Home
246: My Private Messages
247: Home
248: Members List
249: My Private Messages
250: Home
251: Community Forums
252: Home
253: Home
254: Home
255: My Private Messages
256: My Private Messages
257: Community Forums
258: Community Forums
259: Home
260: Home
261: Home
262: Community Forums
263: Home
264: Home
265: Statistics
266: My Private Messages
267: Home
268: Home
269: Home
270: Statistics
271: Home
272: Community Forums
273: Statistics
274: Community Forums
275: Home
276: Statistics
277: Community Forums
278: Home
279: News
280: My Private Messages
281: Home
282: Home
283: Home
284: Home
285: Community Forums
286: Home
287: Members List
288: Home
289: Home
290: Home
291: My Private Messages
292: Home
293: Community Forums
294: Community Forums
295: Home
296: Home
297: My Account
298: Home
299: Community Forums
300: Home
301: Home
302: Home
303: Home
304: Home
305: Community Forums
306: My Private Messages
307: Home
308: Home
309: Home
310: Community Forums
311: My Private Messages
312: Community Forums
313: Home
314: Community Forums
315: Community Forums
316: Community Forums
317: Home
318: Home
319: Home
320: Home
321: Community Forums

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
Toggle Content Main Menu
Toggle Content Last Posts
Last 10 Forum Messages

translation help needed please
Last post by yesindd in Translations on Jul 15, 2024 at 20:59:53

bocca
Last post by tennino in General Discussion Groups on Jan 16, 2021 at 16:56:41

Towns in Frosinone that were part of former Vatican States a
Last post by Italysearcher in Central Italy on Feb 19, 2019 at 09:15:58

Dual Citizenship
Last post by Curci-Ghio in General Discussion Groups on Nov 18, 2018 at 15:30:54

Please Help Translate Letter
Last post by nuccia in Translations on Oct 20, 2018 at 06:18:43

Family in Cittanova
Last post by russojoseph1 in Translations on Oct 14, 2018 at 12:28:20

DNA Testing
Last post by nuccia in General Discussion Groups on Sep 29, 2018 at 10:39:30

Trento -Atto di Nascita - Frazione di Poia, Comune di Comano
Last post by exevans in Northern Italy on Mar 28, 2018 at 00:45:37

Translating written postcard
Last post by mekanic in Translations on Jan 18, 2018 at 13:58:50

Translating written postcard
Last post by mekanic in Translations on Jan 18, 2018 at 13:53:38

Toggle Content Help Support this Site
Please support GentediMareGenealogy
Help us by supporting the future development of this site, or simply to say thank you.
Toggle Content EStore
Community Forums › All Things Italian › Translations › Cache of letters

     Forum FAQ   Search   Log in to check your private messages   Login  
Cache of letters
For help with translating documents or writing letters.
Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3 ... 13, 14, 15, 16, 17  Next

Post new topic   Reply to topic    Forum Index Translations Printer Friendly Page

View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
tjbrn
Explorer
Explorer


Joined: Jan 24, 2008
Posts: 487
Location: North Carolina

PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 1:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Cache of letters Reply with quote

Luca,

One of Gaetano's sisters, Grazia, married Gaetano Scafidi. Could be one of Ignazio's nephrews.

Hmmmm... nephrews must be a southern derivative of nephews Embarassed

_________________
Tom

Scribbling
Back to top
View user's profile
Luca
Translator
Translator


Joined: Jan 22, 2008
Posts: 695
Location: Terni - Italy

PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 5:10 pm    Post subject: Re: Cache of letters Reply with quote

4 Feb 1945

Page1
img143.imageshack.us/i...ge1eg5.jpg

[Nota: Stefano usa il "lei" nei confronti dello zio]
Belmonte Mezzagno 4 Febbraio 1945.
Mio caro zio, durante la sua assenza all'età cui mi trovo da anni 95 (!!!!!!!!), ho giusto alle condizioni in cui mi trovo il piacere di venire a trovare affari [presso] l'americani senza che lei lo voglia, che io li vengo a cercare perché qua siamo sforniti di lavoro. Perciò quando lei ha il suo piacere [cioè: quando desidera lei] se mi vuole far fare senza nessun xxx se mi vuole mandare un certificato con richiamo, che lei richiama a suo nipote sempre xxx a dire se lo può [fare], anzi spero di venire insieme a mio padre perché qui c'è lavoro scarso; che si può partire per il mezzo ...

( Shocked Shocked ma quale siciliano? Questo è arabo! Mr. Green Scherzi a parte: non so se sono riuscito a comprendere il senso delle parole di Stefano.)

Page2
img503.imageshack.us/i...ge2jm4.jpg

... del certificato di richiamo.
Intanto mio caro [zio], dopo tanto tempo che lei non ha scritto a sua sorella Grazia, lei le manda a dire che stiamo tutti bene in famiglia, così pure i cognati, e lo stesso le posso assicurare di sua cognata Carmela e la sua famiglia. E spero che questa mia lettera [quando giungerà a destinazione] vi trovi bene ed in perfetta salute a lei e sua moglie e i figli, che sperando di ricevere buone notizie termino del mio dire, baciandole le mani a lei e sua moglie e tanti saluti ai miei cugini; intanto riceva tanti saluti da mio padre e in particolare da mia madre, tanti saluti anche da mio fratello e [da tutta la] famiglia.

Page3
img505.imageshack.us/i...ge3rb2.jpg

E mentre mi firmo suo mi xxx Scafidi Stefano.
Nel caso che questo favore che io le domando lei non potesse farlo, cerchi in tutti i modi di farlo sapere a mio zio Giuseppe Scafidi, cosicché anche lui possa provarci.
Rinnovo tanti saluti da me, mio padre e mia madre e mi dico suo nipote Stefano Scafidi.
Buone notizie di nuovo chiedo la Benedizione con le sue risposte [il senso: spero di ricevere delle risposte positive da lei].
Se mi scrive questo è il mio indirizzo:
Scafidi stefano
Via Ospizio
Belmonte Mezzagno

Page4
img227.imageshack.us/i...ge4jz9.jpg

Egregio caro Antonino, ti prego di far capitare questo biglietto al tuo padrino Dragotta Ignazio.
Saluti da me
Stefano Scafidi

Back to top
View user's profile
Carole
Admin
Admin


Joined: Jul 10, 2007
Posts: 1662
Location: Valtellina - Near Lake Como

PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 6:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Cache of letters Reply with quote

Page1
img143.imageshack.us/i...ge1eg5.jpg

From Luca's transcription.

(Note: Stefano uses the ‘lei’ (3rd person singular) towards his uncle)
Belmonte Mezzano 4 February 1945.
My dear uncle, during your absence at the age that I find myself of 95 years (!!!!!!), I have just the conditions in which I find myself the pleasure to come and find business (with) the Americans without your liking it, that I will come and look for because here we are deprived of work.
Therefore when you have your pleasure (that is: when you want to) if you want me to do without anyone xxx if you want to send me a certificate with an appeal, that you always appeal to (recall) your nephew to say if he can (do), in fact I hope to come to join my father because here there is little work; that we can leave by ….

(but what Sicilian? Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy This is Arabic! Mr. Green But joking apart: I’m not sure that I have managed to understand the sense of Stefano’s words.)

_________________

Researching: EDMED, SAVILL, TYSON, NEWCOMBE, STAPLETON, GUNTER, STAPLES
If you think education is expensive -try ignorance!

>Expats in Italy<
Come and join 'Dork and Friends'! >New Blog<
Back to top
View user's profile
Carole
Admin
Admin


Joined: Jul 10, 2007
Posts: 1662
Location: Valtellina - Near Lake Como

PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 6:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Cache of letters Reply with quote

Page2
img503.imageshack.us/i...ge2jm4.jpg

From Luca's transcription.

…from the certificate of recall.
In the meantime my dear (uncle), after a long long time that you haven’t written to your sister Grazia, she says to tell you that we are all well in the family, as are the cousins too, it is the same I can assure you for your sister-in-law Carmela and her family.
And I hope that this my letter (when it reaches its destination) will find you well and in perfect health you and your wife and children, that hoping to receive good news at the end of what I say, kissing your hands and your wife’s and best wishes to my cousins; meanwhile accept many wishes from my father and in particular from my mother, many wishes also from my brother and (from all the) family.

_________________

Researching: EDMED, SAVILL, TYSON, NEWCOMBE, STAPLETON, GUNTER, STAPLES
If you think education is expensive -try ignorance!

>Expats in Italy<
Come and join 'Dork and Friends'! >New Blog<


Last edited by Carole on Mon Mar 31, 2008 6:54 pm; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
View user's profile
Carole
Admin
Admin


Joined: Jul 10, 2007
Posts: 1662
Location: Valtellina - Near Lake Como

PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 6:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Cache of letters Reply with quote

Both from Luca's transcription

Page3
img505.imageshack.us/i...ge3rb2.jpg


And while I sign yours my xxx Scafidi Stufano.
In the event that you cannot do this favour that I am asking, look for any way to let my uncle Giuseppe Scafidi know, so that he too can try.
I renew many wishes from me, my father and my mother and I say your nephew Stefano Scafidi.
Good news again I ask the Benediction with your reply (the meaning: I hope to receive a positive reply from you).
If you write this is my address:
Scafidi stefano
Via Ospizio
Belmonte Mezzagno



Page4
img227.imageshack.us/i...ge4jz9.jpg

Dear kind Antonino, I beg you to get this note to your godfather Dragotta Ignazio.
Best wishes from me
Stefano Scafidi

_________________

Researching: EDMED, SAVILL, TYSON, NEWCOMBE, STAPLETON, GUNTER, STAPLES
If you think education is expensive -try ignorance!

>Expats in Italy<
Come and join 'Dork and Friends'! >New Blog<
Back to top
View user's profile
tjbrn
Explorer
Explorer


Joined: Jan 24, 2008
Posts: 487
Location: North Carolina

PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 7:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Cache of letters Reply with quote

Luca,
I love the smilies at the end of your translation. Nice touch. I'm still laughing lol

_________________
Tom

Scribbling
Back to top
View user's profile
tjbrn
Explorer
Explorer


Joined: Jan 24, 2008
Posts: 487
Location: North Carolina

PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 7:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Cache of letters Reply with quote

The final letter -- 3/7/1945

Page1
img524.imageshack.us/i...ge1qj2.jpg

Page2
img119.imageshack.us/i...ge2io4.jpg

Page3
img186.imageshack.us/i...ge3ri9.jpg

Page4
img213.imageshack.us/i...ge4gs0.jpg

_________________
Tom

Scribbling
Back to top
View user's profile
Carole
Admin
Admin


Joined: Jul 10, 2007
Posts: 1662
Location: Valtellina - Near Lake Como

PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 2:32 am    Post subject: Re: Cache of letters Reply with quote

Well this last letter, while sad, brings us to family news once more.

Luca - I have read them and I (think) I understand al of them - but to be certain I will await your transcription if you don't mind. That way Tom will also have a better understanding of any words in dialect.
Carole

_________________

Researching: EDMED, SAVILL, TYSON, NEWCOMBE, STAPLETON, GUNTER, STAPLES
If you think education is expensive -try ignorance!

>Expats in Italy<
Come and join 'Dork and Friends'! >New Blog<
Back to top
View user's profile
Luca
Translator
Translator


Joined: Jan 22, 2008
Posts: 695
Location: Terni - Italy

PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 3:47 am    Post subject: Re: Cache of letters Reply with quote

Beh, Carole, qui c'è poco da trascrivere: è talmente scritta bene che non credo io sarei riuscito a fare meglio (anche impegnandomi).
Penso che ti convenga fare subito la traduzione perchè è già una meravigliosa lettera.
Ciao
Luca
Back to top
View user's profile
Carole
Admin
Admin


Joined: Jul 10, 2007
Posts: 1662
Location: Valtellina - Near Lake Como

PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 4:19 am    Post subject: Re: Cache of letters Reply with quote

Luca wrote:
Beh, Carole, qui c'è poco da trascrivere: è talmente scritta bene che non credo io sarei riuscito a fare meglio (anche impegnandomi).
Penso che ti convenga fare subito la traduzione perchè è già una meravigliosa lettera.
Ciao
Luca

Well Carole, there is little here to transcribe: it is really so well written that I don't think I could do better (even if I tried) I think that it will pay you to translate it now becuse it is a wonderful letter.

Thank you Luca - I didn't want to 'cut you out' of this, the last letter, but I will certainly translate it (probably this afternoon). And you are right - it IS a wonderful letter!

And thank you for taking this interesting journey with me. Your company has really been appreciated!

No one peson can ever be perfect - but a TEAM can be!

_________________

Researching: EDMED, SAVILL, TYSON, NEWCOMBE, STAPLETON, GUNTER, STAPLES
If you think education is expensive -try ignorance!

>Expats in Italy<
Come and join 'Dork and Friends'! >New Blog<
Back to top
View user's profile
Carole
Admin
Admin


Joined: Jul 10, 2007
Posts: 1662
Location: Valtellina - Near Lake Como

PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 11:22 am    Post subject: Re: Cache of letters Reply with quote

Well here is the final part of the story for you Tom.
It has been an interesting journey for us all and I thank you most sincerely for sharing it with us here on "Gente di Mare".
Carole

Page 1

Belmonte Mezzagno 3.7.45. (July)

Dearest brother,
After many, many years of silence, today I have been pushed by a mysterious force to write to you, and why shouldn't I write to my brother? Doesn't the same blood flow in our veins?
When the american forces entered Sicily, I asked them what their name was, because I thought that you have many children and possibly one of them might have found himself here in the crowd. The reason for my silence is also because I didn't have your address, being that our sister-in-law Peppina, wife of our brother Gaetano, even having your address, has never ever wanted to...

Page 2.
... give it saying that she didn't have it.
But it ends well, now I have it and if you would like to give me your news I will accept it willingly. Our sister Concettina died with a wish to see you. I would like to have news of our nephews (and nieces?) children of our sister Filippa (good soul)
Dear Ignazio how I would like to see you all, who knows if before I close my eyes I will get to embrace you one more time.
Write to me, write to me about your wife, about your children, about everyone - make me happy.

Page 3

I, you see have five children two married and two not - the eldest (Giuseppina) has two little boys and is expecting another. The other married one Stefano has only one very little one -
Rosetta and Bettina are young ladies Pietrino is a bachelor.
After the storms of the war and the cease fire (?) we all looked like a lot of stunned /dazed people, we seemed many shadows this dreadful war has reduced us to a naked harshness and hunger, the war it should have ended before, not now after we have nothing left - no patience ---- we have life, the rest the Lord will think of.
In Sicily the disoccupation is indescribable, why....

Page 4

...I don't know, my son Stefanino and Pietrino are both out of work, you can't find any work even having gone around looking for it, one is an electrician/mechanic and the other is a radio telegraphist/mechanic, but they are unlucky. I don't want to load you anymore with my troubles and moaning. I kiss you and your wife and children, many kisses to the nephews and nieces Filppa's children, kisses from all of us.
Angelina Greco
Piazza Garibaldi #31
Belmonte Mezzagno.

written on the left at the bottom - two notes from two others:

Best wishes from your sister-in-law. Carmela and her family are well.
Best wishes from your sister Grazia and Stefania and everyone in the family.

_________________

Researching: EDMED, SAVILL, TYSON, NEWCOMBE, STAPLETON, GUNTER, STAPLES
If you think education is expensive -try ignorance!

>Expats in Italy<
Come and join 'Dork and Friends'! >New Blog<
Back to top
View user's profile
BillieDeKid
V.I.P.
V.I.P.


Joined: Oct 26, 2007
Posts: 1221
Location: Illinois

PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 12:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Cache of letters Reply with quote

Great job Carole and thank you for keeping everyone on the forum informed of all the news by translating to english for us. I, for one, am very grateful that you showed no selfishness which allowed everyone on Gente to feel the emotions of Tom's relatives.

Thanks again for everything you bring to Gente.

Baci - Elizabeth

_________________
Elizabeth
Brognaturo On Line
Brognaturo Civil Records
Mangiardi, Tedeschi/Tedesco, Zangari, Coda, DeFrancesco, Ierulli, Bava, Daniele, Valente
Back to top
View user's profile
alex
New Member
New Member


Joined: Mar 26, 2008
Posts: 7
Location: italia - torino

PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 1:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Cache of letters Reply with quote

Ciao!
leggendo le ultime lettere postate da Tom, mia madre purtroppo ricorda soltanto le sorelle di Tano e Ignazio menzionate al fondo e cioè Grazia e Stefana. I figli di cui parla (Giuseppina, Pietrino,...) erano tutti cugini di mia nonna (cioe la mamma di mia mamma), di cui mia mamma assolutamente non ha alcun ricordo.
In compenso oggi è andata a trovare una sua zia, cioè la sorella di mia nonna, un'altra figlia di Tano, che ricordava esattamente le volte in cui Ignazio mandava qualche soldino dall'America: appunto questa zia di mia madre dice che a Belmonte, per la famiglia di Tano, era una gran festa perchè quei soldi li facevano mangiare per diversi giorni.
Sempre questa zia di mia madre dice che fino a quando lei è stata in Sicilia, cioè fino al 1950 (dopo si è trasferita qui a Torino), ricorda perfettamente un cofanetto dentro il quale erano custodite le lettere e le fotografie di Ignazio...
Ultima cosa che conferma la zia, è che da quando i due fratelli si sono separati, non si sono mai più rivisti...
Questo è quanto possiamo dirvi fin'ora..
un saluto affettuoso a tutti,
ale e maria.

_________________
ale
Back to top
View user's profile MSN Messenger
Luca
Translator
Translator


Joined: Jan 22, 2008
Posts: 695
Location: Terni - Italy

PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 1:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Cache of letters Reply with quote

alex wrote:

... ricorda perfettamente un cofanetto dentro il quale erano custodite le lettere e le fotografie di Ignazio...

Vuoi vedere che le troviamo!!!

Luca
Back to top
View user's profile
alex
New Member
New Member


Joined: Mar 26, 2008
Posts: 7
Location: italia - torino

PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 1:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Cache of letters Reply with quote

Ciò che ti posso dire è che forse mia madre, dopo circa 15 anni, forse ques'estate tornerà in Sicilia...credo mossa da questa storia!!! insomma grazie a voi!!

_________________
ale
Back to top
View user's profile MSN Messenger
  Page 14 of 17All times are GMT - 4 Hours

Post new topic   Reply to topic    Forum Index Translations Printer Friendly Page

  
 
Jump to:  



You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum



Hosted By Site5.com
The logos and trademarks used on this site are the property of Gente di Mare Genealogy.
We are not responsible for comments posted by our users, as they are the opinions of the poster.
Interactive software released under GNU GPL, Code Credits, Privacy Policy
TCD_ItalianGene © Gente di Mare Genealogy