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PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 11:20 pm    Post subject: Re: Sicily~ Michelangelo Sapienza married Carmela Consoli Reply with quote

would someone please try to translate the document for me when they have a chance. Thank you so much. ~ Rita
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 3:33 am    Post subject: Re: Sicily~ Michelangelo Sapienza married Carmela Consoli Reply with quote

nuccia wrote:
Ok..Rita sent me a better and bigger scan:

img183.imageshack.us/i...ephbpt.jpg

Hope this helps!

Luca may give a full translation...

This is the baptism, November 10, 1836, of Maria Sapienza daughter of Francesco Sapienza and Lucia Duscio(?)

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 4:49 am    Post subject: Re: Sicily~ Michelangelo Sapienza married Carmela Consoli Reply with quote

Anno Domini millesimo octingentesimo trigesimo sexto
Die decimo novembris 1836
Ego Sacerdos D. Joseph Tenerelli, et Giudice Capellanus huius Parochialis Matricis Ecclesiae sub titulo Sanctae Mariae Consolationis communis Mascaluciae baptizavi infantem natam a Lucia Dusciae(!) et procreatam a Francisco Sapienza jugalibus praedicto communis cui imposui nomen Maria. Eius vero patrina fuit Rosaria Leino(!) ejusdem communis.

L'anno del Signore 1836.
Il giorno 10 di Novembre.
Io Giuseppe Tenerelli Sacerdote e giudice Cappellano di questa Chiesa parrocchiale e matrice sotto il titolo di Santa Maria della Consolazione del Comune di Mascalucia battezai un'infante nata da Lucia Duscia(!) e procreata da Francesco Sapienza coniugi del predetto Comune a cui imposi il nome di Maria. La matrina fu Rosaria Leino dello stesso Comune.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 10:58 am    Post subject: Re: Sicily~ Michelangelo Sapienza married Carmela Consoli Reply with quote

I'm sorry Luca, Joseph Sapienza is on the top of the page #71. There is a piece of paper just above his name. Thank you. ~ Rita
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 11:15 am    Post subject: Re: Sicily~ Michelangelo Sapienza married Carmela Consoli Reply with quote

Thanks Luca...

L'anno del Signore 1836.
Il giorno 10 di Novembre.
Io Giuseppe Tenerelli Sacerdote e giudice Cappellano di questa Chiesa parrocchiale e matrice sotto il titolo di Santa Maria della Consolazione del Comune di Mascalucia battezai un'infante nata da Lucia Duscia(!) e procreata da Francesco Sapienza coniugi del predetto Comune a cui imposi il nome di Maria. La matrina fu Rosaria Leino dello stesso Comune.



Translation:
The Year Of Our Lord one thousand eight hundred and thirty six
The 10th day of November.
I. Giuseppe Teneralli, priest and judge chaplain of this parish Church and matrix under the title of Santa Maria of the Consolazione of this Comune of
Mascalucia did baptise an infant born to Lucia Duscia(!) and begot by Francesco Sapienza husband and wife of the aforesaid Comune and to whom the name of Maria was given. The godmother was Rosaria Leino of the same Comune


Luca,
I must admit the word 'matricis' caused me some problems - I realise that it could infer the body and root of from which something develops OR the old use for the word womb - 16c: Latin, meaning 'womb'. But how should it be used in this context?
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 12:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Sicily~ Michelangelo Sapienza married Carmela Consoli Reply with quote

X Carole
Chiesa Matrice si può intendere come Chiesa madre (nel senso di Chiesa principale) Wink

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I'll try to translate the act of Joseph Sapienza too.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 2:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Sicily~ Michelangelo Sapienza married Carmela Consoli Reply with quote

The picture is poor: sorry but i can't give you a complete translation.

Anno Domini millesimo octingentesimo trigesimo sexto
Die secunda novembris
Ego Sacerdos ... Ascentius ... Capellanus ... ... huius Insigni Matricis Ecclesiae sub titulo Sanctae Mariae Consolationis communis Mascaluciae baptizavi infantem procreatum ex Angelo Sapienza et natum ex Catharina ... jugalibus huius dicti communis cui imposuit fuit nomen Joseph. Matrina domina Maria Marletta(!) ejusdem communis.

L'anno del Signore 1836.
Il giorno 2 di Novembre.
Io Ascenzio ... Sacerdote ... Cappellano ... ... di questa Insigne Chiesa matrice sotto il titolo di Santa Maria della Consolazione del Comune di Mascalucia battezzai un infante procreato da Angelo Sapienza e nato da Caterina ... coniugi dei questo detto Comune a cui fu imposto il nome di Giuseppe. Matrina donna Maria Marletta(!) dello stesso Comune.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 4:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Sicily~ Michelangelo Sapienza married Carmela Consoli Reply with quote

I am a bit confused. Do you believe this is my Great,Great Grandfather Joseph Sapienza or do you think I have the wrong person? In my family... Joseph Sapienza is supposeably the child of Michelangelo and Carmela Consoli. This is the closest I have found on the film from Mascalucia and I don't know what to do from here. Thanks. ~ Rita
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 6:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Sicily~ Michelangelo Sapienza married Carmela Consoli Reply with quote

A bit of time has passed so i don't remember the whole topic, but i remember well that the name was Michelangelo and not Angelo. So, if you are sure that the mother's name is Carmela and not Caterina, i'll say that this Giuseppe is a cousin of "your" Giuseppe.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 6:22 pm    Post subject: Re: Sicily~ Michelangelo Sapienza married Carmela Consoli Reply with quote

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L'anno del Signore 1836.
Il giorno 2 di Novembre.
Io Ascenzio ... Sacerdote ... Cappellano ... ... di questa Insigne Chiesa matrice sotto il titolo di Santa Maria della Consolazione del Comune di Mascalucia battezzai un infante procreato da Angelo Sapienza e nato da Caterina ... coniugi dei questo detto Comune a cui fu imposto il nome di Giuseppe. Matrina donna Maria Marletta(!) dello stesso Comune.
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Translation:
The year of Our Lord 1836
The 2nd November
I Ascenzio ..... Priest…. Chaplain….. of this Illustrious Mother Church under the title of Santa Maria of the Consolazione in the Comune of Mascalucia baptised an infant begat by Angelo Sapienza and born to Caterina husband and wife of this said Comune and to whom the name of Giuseppe was given.
Godmother Maria Marletta(!) of the same Comune


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 2:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Sicily~ Michelangelo Sapienza married Carmela Consoli Reply with quote

I found this document and was wondering if someone will translate it for me. I don't know if this is a child Michaelangelo related to my family. I hope it is large enough to see. Thank you. ~ Rita
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 3:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Sicily~ Michelangelo Sapienza married Carmela Consoli Reply with quote

I've just noticed on this document that there is a Salvatore Sapienza and a Gratia Sapienza on this page. I don't know if they could be related to me and would appreciate if it can be translated. Thank you.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 3:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Sicily~ Michelangelo Sapienza married Carmela Consoli Reply with quote

I found another document that maybe Joseph Sapienza. I see it on the bottom of the page, if someone would please translate for me. Thank you so much. ~ Rita
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 6:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Sicily~ Michelangelo Sapienza married Carmela Consoli Reply with quote

Tiger965 wrote:
I found this document and was wondering if someone will translate it for me. I don't know if this is a child Michaelangelo related to my family. I hope it is large enough to see. Thank you. ~ Rita
Father Vito Sapienza, mother Angela Giuffrida, date November 29th 1852.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 6:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Sicily~ Michelangelo Sapienza married Carmela Consoli Reply with quote

Tiger965 wrote:
I've just noticed on this document that there is a Salvatore Sapienza and a Gratia Sapienza on this page. I don't know if they could be related to me and would appreciate if it can be translated. Thank you.

Father Alfio Sapienza, mother Giovanna Leina(?), date October 29th 1849. The name of the Priest is Salvatore Rapisarda. The name of the child, in modern italian, is Grazia.

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