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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 4:20 pm    Post subject: Domenico Cicco/Katherine Torchia Reply with quote

Hi all, I've also posted this on Edmondo's Italian Genealogy site.

I've been helping a friend of mine, Dom Cicco, locate information on his grandparents but have hit a wall on locating his grandfather's WWII Draft card and his grandmother's ship manifest. For reference, I've posted their 1930 census record as well as his ship manifest. In 1921 Domenico emigrated from San Mango d'Aquino, the same town as my grandfather, and would eventually settle in Carbondale PA, the same town where my grandfather lived. Dom lived around the corner from us so Dom and I are not only fellow Coal Cracker Carbondaleans we're also paesani.

Just an educated guess on my part but I believe that Katherine was also from San Mango. If you check the 1930 census below, you'll see that the Cicco's were living at the same address as the Joseph Torch(ia) family. I'm waiting to hear from my friend to see what if any relationship there was between Joseph Torch(ia) and Katherine Torchia. The section of Scranton where all were living was heavily settled by people from San Mango. I've also found naturalization records for Domenico and one of the witnesses was another sanmanghese, Carmine Puteri, who is also on the 1930 census page. I've located Joseph Torch(ia)'s WWII draft card which shows him at the same address and his place of birth as San Mango d'Aquino.

1930 Cicco Census lines 11 and following. Listed incorrectly as Cichi.

1921 Cicco ship manifest, page 1 line 28 travelling with line 27

Cicco manifest page 2

One note on his destination. I believe it should have been recorded as 181 Belmont St, Carbondale PA, not New York, NY.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 5:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Domenico Cicco/Katherine Torchia Reply with quote

Biff,

Going quickly here my first insstinct would be to search under Maria since that often preceded names. This is what I found but I haven't really examined it although it does seem interesting a first glance..



I need to link though but meanwhile you can view it and tell me your thoughts. I'll look at the second page as well..

*NOPE>>NOT HER****

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 7:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Domenico Cicco/Katherine Torchia Reply with quote

nuccia wrote:
Biff,

Going quickly here my first insstinct would be to search under Maria since that often preceded names.

I agree could have been Maria Caterina but I've also seen C(K)atherine used for other first names as well.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 4:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Domenico Cicco/Katherine Torchia Reply with quote

Joseph and Mary Torch in the 1930 census are indeed Katherine's parents. I have located a 1920 manifest for Giuseppe in which his nearest relative in San Mango d'Aquino is Mary Bonani (at least that's what it looks like to me; I'm wondering if it was actually Bonacci since Bonani is a completely foreign name to San Mango and its environs). Assuming that Caterina and her mother traveled together to join Giuseppe, they would have emigrated sometime subsequent to Giuseppe's arrival in 1920 and early 1921 if Joseph and Mary's son Pasquale on the 1930 census was 10 years old and born in Pennsylvania.

Even with this information, I'm still striking out locating a manifest for Caterina and/or Maria. Here's Giuseppe's 1920 manifest for reference.

1920 manifest for Giuseppe Torchia, page 1 line 4
Page 2

The manifest states he was previously in the US from 1909-1911 and I have also located that 1909 manifest but it contains no further clues.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 5:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Domenico Cicco/Katherine Torchia Reply with quote

This is proving to be quite a challenge...we're going to need to maybe try another route....maybe we should attempt to write to Italy to see if she pops up anywhere?

Or maybe try writing away under FOIA to see what her file contains? Sometimes there are copies manifests, alien cards, and naturalization records.

If you are interested in this route, I can provide more info..

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 5:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Domenico Cicco/Katherine Torchia Reply with quote

nuccia wrote:
This is proving to be quite a challenge

Yep, locating information on Katherine has been tough. I did locate her father Giuseppe Torchia's Delcaration of Intention and his Oath of Allegiance on Footnote.com but not his Petition for Naturalization which is strange. He would have petitioned around 1926/1927 and the petition would verify his children's dates and places of birth.

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