What does this Mean?

nuccia · Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 9:03 pm Post subject: What does this Mean?

I'm transcribing records (finally after 4 months of sitting on them) and I've come across a phrase I don't understand... Confused

Can someone translate it for me please?

Heres a copy of the image...

liviomoreno · Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 2:57 am Post subject: Re: What does the Mean?

What I read is:

Stella d'incerto padre, sua moglie, filatrice,

and I would translate:

Stella d'incerto (?) father, his wife, spinner (someone who spins, who twists fibers into threads)

If you link the whole sentence, I can be more precise.

nuccia · Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 3:04 am Post subject: Re: What does the Mean?

I would need to rescan it again in order to link the whole thing. But it's that word, Incerto that has me stumped. I'll scan it after woek today.

Cathy · V.I.P. Joined: Jul 10, 2007 Posts: 2681

Didn't Emmy make a post a while back about incerto meaning unknown?

chanchisfea · V.I.P. Joined: Jul 11, 2007 Posts: 250

That word is almost like the one we have in Spanish: Incierto, which means "Uncertain"...hope that helps some Wink

Liz

nuccia · Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 11:56 am Post subject: Re: What does the Mean?

Thanks you guys. I must have missed Emmy's post about that. Theres also another one I'm having trouble with. Will try and scan that one and post/

Liz, have a great trip and be safe, ok? We'll miss you.. kiss

chanchisfea · V.I.P. Joined: Jul 11, 2007 Posts: 250

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Liz, have a great trip and be safe, ok? We'll miss you..

((((Hug)))) Thanks! You will not miss me much though...I will be taking my laptop with me, so I can whap you from far away Wink

Liz

nuccia · Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 12:37 pm Post subject: Re: What does the Mean?

I figured you would bring that along, although I think you're going to be too busy to play with it much!

Emmy · V.I.P. Joined: Jul 11, 2007 Posts: 1000 Location: Scotland

Yes Cathy your correct it said on one of my birth acts 'incerto padre' meaning 'no father' (space for father's name had been left blank ---sometimes it has been written as N. N.)
Emmy

liviomoreno · Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 2:47 pm Post subject: Re: What does this Mean?

I agree that "incerto padre" means "father uncertain", however I would like to see the full sentence before saying the last word.
Usually the word "ignoto", unknown, was used...

Emmy · V.I.P. Joined: Jul 11, 2007 Posts: 1000 Location: Scotland

Livio was I correct in in thinking that N.N. means 'no father'? The other words I've found were 'niente padre' and on some birth certificates instead of 'fu' being before the grandfather's name it had the word 'defunto' after it. Does this have the same meaning?
Emmy

Carole · Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 7:39 pm Post subject: Re: What does this Mean?

defunto means 'dead' or 'deceased' so its intention is the same as 'fu'

Cathy · V.I.P. Joined: Jul 10, 2007 Posts: 2681

Carole wrote:

defunto means 'dead' or 'deceased' so its intention is the same as 'fu'

Great thing to know! I have often seen this word generally used in reference to the home of the deceased.

goganga · Dev Joined: Jul 11, 2007 Posts: 226 Location: North Italy

Emmy wrote:

Livio was I correct in in thinking that N.N. means 'no father'?

Yes, you are correct.