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PostPosted: Sun Jul 07, 2013 6:01 am    Post subject: Re: TUDDA Reply with quote

Found the following info as well using the Italia.indettaglio.it search - maybe it helps?

Tudda 30.24 Cerzeto Cosenza
Tudda 9.52 Civita Cosenza
Tudda 6.04 Castrovillari Cosenza
Tudda 6.02 Rende Cosenza
Tudda 5.60 Cosenza Cosenza
Tudda 2.96 Fuscaldo Cosenza
Tudda 2.86 San Marco Argentano Cosenza
Tudda 2.70 Mongrassano Cosenza

Tudda 6.18 San Giorgio a Cremano Napoli
Tudda 3.14 Eboli Salerno

Tudda 2.30 Vergato Bologna

Tudda 7.44 Cinisello Balsamo Milano
Tudda 4.58 Milano Milano
Tudda 2.76 Garbagnate Milanese Milano
Tudda 2.50 Monza Monza e della Brianza

Tudda 2.21 Torino Torino

Tudda 2.47 Pisa Pisa

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 07, 2013 6:38 am    Post subject: Re: TUDDA Reply with quote

suanj wrote:
Hi, again me...
I believe that Marianna Tudda was the second wife of Vincenzo Petrozzi:
the marriage:
Marriages Mar 1898 (>99%)
________________________________________
TUDDA Marianna Birmingham
6d 262



Marriages Mar 1898 (>99%)
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Petrozzi Vincenzo Birmingham
6d 262


the 1901 census:

1901 England Census about Marianna Petruzzi
Name: Marianna Petruzzi
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Vincenzo Petruzzi
Gender: Female
Where born: Ita Foreign Subject

Civil Parish: Birmingham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Bartholomew
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:
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Registration District: Birmingham
Sub-registration District: St Martin
ED, institution, or vessel: 52
Neighbors: View others on page

Household Schedule Number: 65
Piece: 2838
Folio: 11
Page Number: 14
Household Members: Name Age
Vincenzo Petruzzi
30
Marianna Petruzzi
27
Filomena Petruzzi
5
Romolo Petruzzi
4



the Vincenzo daughter birth:
Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page
Births Sep 1895 (>99%)
Petrozzi Filomena Birmingham 6d 50

it is possible that Vincenzo Petrozzi coming from Sora (Frosinone province).

I know not what happened, because Romolo Petrozzi [son of Vincenzo and..(? ex wife)] married in UK..

NAME: Romolo Petrozzi
SPOUSE: Mcleod
MARRIAGE: Sep 1931 - Stoke upon Trent, Staffordshire
OTHER: QMar-Jul-Aug-Sep 1931



just my suggestions...
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Just some additional info on Romolo.

England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007 about Lomolo Petrozzi
Name: Lomolo Petrozzi
Birth Date: abt 1898
Date of Registration: Jun 1957
Age at Death: 59
Registration District: Stoke on Trent
Inferred County: Staffordshire
Volume: 9b
Page: 430


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Hi Nuccia, yes on the death record the informant given wrong parent's names: really the first names was:
Donato the father
and
Filomena the mother (=Chelemann..)
Hugs,
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Yes I believe so as well. My mother in law is from San Donato (near Sora)
and I believe you are right about the area where the family may have come from. Donato, Cesidio, - all VERY common names from the area. Lots of people from the area in Toronto as well as in Massachusetts, USA.

Possible names to look for - Donato (Danny) Cesare or Cesidio (Jesse)

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 07, 2013 9:49 am    Post subject: Re: TUDDA Reply with quote

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England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007 about Lomolo Petrozzi
Name: Lomolo Petrozzi
Birth Date: abt 1898
Date of Registration: Jun 1957
Age at Death: 59
Registration District: Stoke on Trent
Inferred County: Staffordshire
Volume: 9b
Page: 430
Great find Nuccia! Romolo was supposed to be born in 1897.. maybe at time of his birth, the mother died...
I believe that Giulietta ( =little Giulia) and Marianna Tudda was really born in Cassino or in a place very close.. or who know''...
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 07, 2013 10:40 am    Post subject: Re: TUDDA Reply with quote

I found the marriage record abt Giulietta:
Marriages Sep 1890 (>99%)
Tuda Giulietta Birmingham 6d 331

her maiden name is spelled TUDA
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 07, 2013 12:52 pm    Post subject: Re: TUDDA Reply with quote

Nice! Ok, I will also keep looking. Sent a message to emmy whose family is from those parts. She is going to *try* to get to her FHC to see if there is anything on the microfilms she has.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 07, 2013 3:01 pm    Post subject: Re: TUDDA Reply with quote

Good idea!
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 3:44 pm    Post subject: Re: TUDDA Reply with quote

Thank you so very much Suanj and nuccia, I think this was Marianna's husband. Very saddened to think that after returning to Italy she may have died or been abandoned. But I think my G. Grandmother her sister would have sent for her to return to the UK if she had been abandoned, I fear she must have died, how very sad to know. I hoped that she may have had surviving children and so forth. But I now feel that I may have a new lead with the son Romolo Pettrozi who married in the UK. Hopefully I will be able to find out what happened and uncover some of the mysteries that is if he had any children. He settled finally in Canada after marrying a third time, and here the family were thinking they had returned to Italy where they remained, lived and died. I am still no closer to finding out Marianna and Giuliettas mothers name. the fathers name is on Giuliettas (my G. Grandmother) married Certificate - Cesaro Tudda, but there is no mention of her mother Cesaro's wife.
How can I find this out??? If the records were destroyed because of the war is there no other means of finding out?
But I would like to say a big Thank you once again.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 3:47 pm    Post subject: Re: TUDDA Reply with quote

I actually live in Toronto - maybe I can do something from here.. hopefully there is a document that gives the surnames somewhere. Am working on it.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 3:58 pm    Post subject: Re: TUDDA Reply with quote

Hi Again,
I have just read the other info you have written, the name Tudda has been spelt Tudda or Tuda on some of the paperwork I have come across (marriage Certificate). Strange thing is all this time we believed that the Tuddas came from Castiglioni and now could be Cassino?? It would be good to know the truth.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 4:02 pm    Post subject: Re: TUDDA Reply with quote

Thank you nuccia, thank you for all your help, will continue to search in UK records now that I have Marianna's married name

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 4:08 pm    Post subject: Re: TUDDA Reply with quote

ANGEL wrote:
Thank you so very much Suanj and nuccia, I think this was Marianna's husband. Very saddened to think that after returning to Italy she may have died or been abandoned. But I think my G. Grandmother her sister would have sent for her to return to the UK if she had been abandoned, I fear she must have died, how very sad to know. I hoped that she may have had surviving children and so forth. But I now feel that I may have a new lead with the son Romolo Pettrozi who married in the UK. Hopefully I will be able to find out what happened and uncover some of the mysteries that is if he had any children. He settled finally in Canada after marrying a third time, and here the family were thinking they had returned to Italy where they remained, lived and died. I am still no closer to finding out Marianna and Giuliettas mothers name. the fathers name is on Giuliettas (my G. Grandmother) married Certificate - Cesaro Tudda, but there is no mention of her mother Cesaro's wife.
How can I find this out??? If the records were destroyed because of the war is there no other means of finding out?
But I would like to say a big Thank you once again.
Angel
Hi Angel, Vincenzo Petrozzi died in Canada:
Vincenzo Petrozzi died in Canada:

Ontario, Canada, Deaths, 1869-1938 and Deaths Overseas, 1939-1947 about Vincenzo Petrozzo
Name: Vincenzo Petrozzo (Petrozzi)
Death Date: 19 Mar 1930
Death County or District: York
Age: 59
Gender: Male
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871
Birth Location: Italy


abt the records... Cassino civil records was destroyed in WWII bombing on the town.. I believe that it is impossible to descover more.. maybe if Marianna died in Sora , maybe in Sora civil records can be the death record.. but if she and husband came back in Cassino it is hard to find more...
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 4:22 pm    Post subject: Re: TUDDA Reply with quote

Hi Suanj,
Ok! will search for her death records. Is it possible that if she and Giulietta were born in Sora or Cassino that church records would still be kept??
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 6:28 am    Post subject: Re: TUDDA Reply with quote

Hi Angel,
by LDS microfilms of Sora civil records .. well they are availables from 1809 to 1899
Registri dello stato civile di Sora (Frosinone), 1809-1899
Births, marriages, deaths, miscellaneous documents, marriage documents.
familysearch.org/searc...alog/14568
but Marianna if back in Sora must be died between 1903 to 1906.. so no helpful abt Marianna death search... I believe that Giulietta and Marianna was born in Cassino...
I found a TUDDA Cesare in Castellammare di Stabia ( Naples/Napoli, Campania region), seller or peddler, married at Antonia Chiumenta, abt a death act of 2 children:
Enrico Tudda died on 27 Feb 1876 -Castellammare di Stabia, at age of 34 days
familysearch.org/pal:/...2018603138

and Vincenzo Tudda died on 05 Mar 1876 Castellammare di Stabia at age of 8
familysearch.org/pal:/...2018603138

I found the birth act of Enrico Tudda, but the surname is spelled TUTA on the birth act and Cesare ( son of Tommaso) was 50 old in 1876

Enrico TUTA/TUDDA birth act #92
familysearch.org/pal:/...1032866808
so the surname spelling remain a mystery... just after 1 month from Enrico birth the surname becoming Tudda...

the above mentioned Cesare Tudda it is the only man with the similar name of Giulietta father.. I know not if can be helpful in some way..
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 10:55 am    Post subject: Re: TUDDA Reply with quote

I found the 1891 census abt Giulietta and Innocenzo; the names are very mispelled:
1891 England Census about Neerenzo Bartono
Name: Neerenzo Bartono
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Italy
Civil Parish: Birmingham

Ecclesiastical parish: St Bartholomew
Town: Birmingham
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration District: Birmingham
Sub-registration District: St Martin
ED, institution, or vessel: 24
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2384
Folio: 99
Page Number: 10
Household Members:
Name Age
Gaseyys Delicata 41
Daminighe Malizro 30
Raffaele Lamzarto 28
Ancelina Lamzarto 24
Zellizzo Margratt 43
Fillippo Sannelto 28
Benedictta Vettrano 24
Pasqualo Grande 34
Pasqualo Casinelli 32
Gavonni Jurlette 26
Benedetto Crattesse 23
Aleland Dromoninera 29
Felippo Fortuno 25
Tomosa Macine 25
Govanni Delicata 22
Neerenzo Bartono 27
Goutra Tudda 20
Goutra( Giulietta ) also if married resulting single and male person..(!) both musicians... Giulietta 20 old so born abt in 1871...
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 11:07 am    Post subject: Re: TUDDA Reply with quote

the 1901 census:
1901 England Census about Gililia Barloni
Name: Gililia Barloni
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Jno Cenzo Barloni
Gender: Female
Where born: Ita Foreign Subject
Civil Parish: Birmingham

Ecclesiastical parish: St Bartholomew
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration District: Birmingham
Sub-registration District: St Martin
ED, institution, or vessel: 52
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 104
Piece: 2838
Folio: 15
Page Number: 22
Household Members:
Name Age
Jno Cenzo Barloni 23
Gililia Barloni 27
Giovanni Barloni 8
Antonetta Barloni 5
Luisetta Barloni 4
Maddalena Barloni 3
Antonio Barloni 1

Carmina Westruzzo 34
Guideppi Torsigno 20
Guideppi Capocci 24
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