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PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 8:52 am    Post subject: How to search more info about my GreatGrandpa? Reply with quote

Hi folks Smile
I'm lookin for info about my great grandpa...I'm interested to be naturalized american, but i dont know so much about my greatgrandpa and..i dont want to be dumb because i have no ideas about what i need and what i have, can anyone help me?
My greatgrandpa name is: Casimiro Milza, later in Vollero. My grandpa is Frank (or Francesco) Vollero like me Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 9:28 am    Post subject: Re: How to search more info about my GreatGrandpa? Reply with quote

I think I found what may be Casimiro's first ship manifest..

First Name: Casimiro
Last Name: Milza
Ethnicity: Italy, South Italian
Last Place of Residence: Atrani
Date of Arrival: Aug 20, 1903
Age at Arrival: 21y Gender: M Marital Status: S
Ship of Travel: Lombardia
Port of Departure: Napoli
Manifest Line Number: 0007

Casimiro Milza 1903 Ship Manifest

He made another trip in 1909 with his wife Raffaella going to New Jersey to see his uncle.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 12:28 pm    Post subject: Re: How to search more info about my GreatGrandpa? Reply with quote

Greattt... but i think that it's not enough to be naturalized...i need some paper like a census where i can found my granpa family right?
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 1:02 pm    Post subject: Re: How to search more info about my GreatGrandpa? Reply with quote

Francesco..there is a lot more to be found before we can say if he was naturalized or not. I would just like to go through the whole thing..seems he made several trips according to the manifests.

By 1938, he had legally changed his name for Casimiro to Louis or Luigi since he again travels to the US under his new name with his wife..
By then, they were already living in Gerace Marina. Raffaella also made a trip alone in 1948 from Italy to the US...her real name is Maria Raffaella.

I'll post the other passenger lists for you soon.

Here is the 1920 census..notice the children all born in the USA? He had already filed his first papers for naturalization as per the census. Claims his year of immigration is 1913..maybe another trip.

1920 United States Federal Census

about Loris Vollero
Name: Loris Vollero
[Louis Voller]
Home in 1920: Elizabeth City Ward 10, Union, New Jersey
Age: 37 years
Estimated birth year: abt 1883
[abt 1882]
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's name: Mary
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Rent
Year of Immigration: 1913
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Image: 841
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Loris Vollero 37
Mary Vollero 36
Severio Vollero 9
Louis Vollero 7
Alphonso Vollero 6
Madeline Vollero 2 11/12
Josephine Vollero 1 2/12

Source Citation: Year: 1920;Census Place: Elizabeth City Ward 10, Union, New Jersey; Roll: T625_1070; Page: 20A; Enumeration District: 97; Image: 841.

1920 Census

Still looking.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 1:12 pm    Post subject: Re: How to search more info about my GreatGrandpa? Reply with quote

Draft Cards for Casimiro...

World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918
about Casimiro Milza Vollero
Name: Casimiro Milza Vollero
City: Elizabeth
County: Union
State: New Jersey
Birth Date: 4 Mar 1882
Race: White
Roll: 1712100
DraftBoard: 3

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 1:32 pm    Post subject: Re: How to search more info about my GreatGrandpa? Reply with quote

Young Louis Draft Information:

U.S. World War II Army Enlistment Records, 1938-1946
about Louis S Vollero
Name: Louis S Vollero
Birth Year: 1912
Race: White, citizen (White)
Nativity State or Country: New Jersey
State: New Jersey
County or City: Union

Enlistment Date: 4 Apr 1942
Enlistment State: New Jersey
Enlistment City: Newark
Branch: Branch Immaterial - Warrant Officers, USA
Branch Code: Branch Immaterial - Warrant Officers, USA
Grade: Private
Grade Code: Private
Term of Enlistment: Enlistment for the duration of the War or other emergency, plus six months, subject to the discretion of the President or otherwise according to law
Component: Selectees (Enlisted Men)
Source: Civil Life

Education: 4 years of high school
Civil Occupation: Canvas Cover Repairman (Canvas worker. ) or Sewing Machine Operator
Marital Status: Single, without dependents
Height: 63
Weight: 128

And Alfonso's Draft Information:

U.S. World War II Army Enlistment Records, 1938-1946
about Alfonso A Vollero
Name: Alfonso A Vollero
Birth Year: 1914
Race: White, citizen (White)
Nativity State or Country: New Jersey
State: New Jersey
County or City: Union

Enlistment Date: 27 Nov 1942
Enlistment State: New Jersey
Enlistment City: Newark
Branch: Branch Immaterial - Warrant Officers, USA
Branch Code: Branch Immaterial - Warrant Officers, USA
Grade: Private
Grade Code: Private
Term of Enlistment: Enlistment for the duration of the War or other emergency, plus six months, subject to the discretion of the President or otherwise according to law
Component: Selectees (Enlisted Men)
Source: Civil Life

Education: Grammar school
Civil Occupation: Foreman, Laundry or Foreman, Auto Repair Shop
Marital Status: Single, without dependents
Height: 66
Weight: 122

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 1:47 pm    Post subject: Re: How to search more info about my GreatGrandpa? Reply with quote

Young Louis Manifest..

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
about Luigi Vollero
Name: Luigi Vollero
Arrival Date: 6 Dec 1934
Estimated birth year: 1912
Age: 22
Gender: Male
Port of Departure: Naples, Italy
Ship Name: Saturnia
Search Ship Database: View the Saturnia in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Nativity: New Jersey
Line: 1
Microfilm Serial: T715
Microfilm Roll: T715_5582
Birth Location: New Jersey
Birth Location Other: Elizabeth
Page Number: 58

Source Citation: Year: 1934; Microfilm serial: T715; Microfilm roll: T715_5582; Line: 1; .

Louis Vollero Ship Manifest

Josephine (Giuseppa) Ship Manifest traveling with younger sister (?) Carmella.

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
about Giuseppina Vollero
Name: Giuseppina Vollero
Arrival Date: 29 Jun 1939
Estimated birth year: abt 1919
Age: 20
Gender: Female
Port of Departure: Naples, Italy
Ship Name: Rex
Search Ship Database: Search the Rex in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Nativity: New Jersey
Line: 3
Microfilm Serial: T715
Microfilm Roll: T715_6354
Birth Location: New Jersey
Birth Location Other: Elizabeth
Page Number: 121

Source Citation: Year: 1939; Microfilm serial: T715; Microfilm roll: T715_6354; Line: 3; .

Giuseppa and Carmela Manifest

Alfonso Manifest:

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
about Alfonso Vollero
Name: Alfonso Vollero
Arrival Date: 2 May 1933
Estimated birth year: 1914
Age: 19
Gender: Male
Port of Departure: Genoa, Italy
Ship Name: Conte di Savoia
Search Ship Database: View the Conte di Savoia in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Nativity: New Jersey
Line: 17
Microfilm Serial: T715
Microfilm Roll: T715_5324
Birth Location: New Jersey
Birth Location Other: Elizabeth
Page Number: 78

Source Citation: Year: 1933; Microfilm serial: T715; Microfilm roll: T715_5324; Line: 17; .

Alfonso Manifest

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 2:14 pm    Post subject: Re: How to search more info about my GreatGrandpa? Reply with quote

Casimiro (Luigi Vollero) Ship Manifests..

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
about Luigi Vollero
Name: Luigi Vollero
Arrival Date: 16 Nov 1933
Estimated birth year: abt 1882
Age: 51
Gender: Male
Port of Departure: Naples, Italy
Ethnicity/Race/Nationality: Italian (South) (Italian)
Ship Name: Roma
Search Ship Database: View the Roma in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Nativity: Italy
Line: 17
Microfilm Serial: T715
Microfilm Roll: T715_5417
Birth Location: Italy
Birth Location Other: amalfi (should be Atrani)
Page Number: 38

Source Citation: Year: 1933; Microfilm serial: T715; Microfilm roll: T715_5417; Line: 17; .

Traveling with daughter Maddelena.

Luigi and Madelena manifest

Page 2

Another trip..notice the passenger traveling with him? Your grandfather, Francesco, I believe. At least you have their passport numbers. Could be useful when filling out the G 639 form.

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
about Luigi Vollero
Name: Luigi Vollero
Arrival Date: 30 Apr 1956
Port of Departure: Naples, Italy
Ethnicity/Race/Nationality: Italian
Ship Name: Cristoforo Colombo
Search Ship Database: Search the Cristoforo Colombo in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Line: 6
Microfilm Serial: T715
Microfilm Roll: T715_8714
Page Number: 137

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
about Francesco Vollero
Name: Francesco Vollero
Arrival Date: 30 Apr 1956
Port of Departure: Naples, Italy
Ethnicity/Race/Nationality: Italian
Ship Name: Cristoforo Colombo
Search Ship Database: Search the Cristoforo Colombo in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Line: 5
Microfilm Serial: T715
Microfilm Roll: T715_8714
Page Number: 137

Source Citation: Year: 1956; Microfilm serial: T715; Microfilm roll: T715_8714; Line: 6; .

Manifest

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 2:23 pm    Post subject: Re: How to search more info about my GreatGrandpa? Reply with quote

Maria Raffaella Vollero ship manifest..

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
about Maria Raffaela Vollero
Name: Maria Raffaela Vollero
Arrival Date: 14 Nov 1948
Estimated birth year: abt 1889
Age: 59
Gender: Female
Port of Departure: Naples, Italy
Ethnicity/Race/Nationality: Italian
Ship Name: Saturnia
Search Ship Database: Search the Saturnia in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Line: 16
Microfilm Serial: T715
Microfilm Roll: T715_7677
Page Number: 174

Source Citation: Year: 1948; Microfilm serial: T715; Microfilm roll: T715_7677; Line: 16; .

Raffaella Manifest

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 2:34 pm    Post subject: Re: How to search more info about my GreatGrandpa? Reply with quote

Raffaella Death Info:

Social Security Death Index
about Maria Vollero
Name: Maria Vollero
SSN: xxx-xx-2665
Last Residence: 07206 Elizabeth, Union, New Jersey, United States of America
Born: 14 Mar 1889
Died: Apr 1977
State (Year) SSN issued: New Jersey (1966 )

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 3:09 pm    Post subject: Re: How to search more info about my GreatGrandpa? Reply with quote

I had to add this..

Casimiro went to the US to visit his uncle in 1903 and they ended up living next door to them in NJ. The uncle's name was Alfonso..

Heres his draft info too..I thought is was interesting.

Alfonso Draft

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 4:45 pm    Post subject: Re: How to search more info about my GreatGrandpa? Reply with quote

Naturalization Information from USCIS
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 9:40 pm    Post subject: Re: How to search more info about my GreatGrandpa? Reply with quote

Nuccia, is awesomee O_O You find a lot of informations... But...i dont see my grandpa, that was born in 1923 in Italy. 3 years after the 1920 census... Sigh...It's strange no?
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 4:03 am    Post subject: Re: How to search more info about my GreatGrandpa? Reply with quote

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Another trip..notice the passenger traveling with him? Your grandfather, Francesco, I believe. At least you have their passport numbers. Could be useful when filling out the G 639 form.

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
about Luigi Vollero
Name: Luigi Vollero
Arrival Date: 30 Apr 1956
Port of Departure: Naples, Italy
Ethnicity/Race/Nationality: Italian
Ship Name: Cristoforo Colombo
Search Ship Database: Search the Cristoforo Colombo in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Line: 6
Microfilm Serial: T715
Microfilm Roll: T715_8714
Page Number: 137

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
about Francesco Vollero
Name: Francesco Vollero
Arrival Date: 30 Apr 1956
Port of Departure: Naples, Italy
Ethnicity/Race/Nationality: Italian
Ship Name: Cristoforo Colombo
Search Ship Database: Search the Cristoforo Colombo in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Line: 5
Microfilm Serial: T715
Microfilm Roll: T715_8714
Page Number: 137

Source Citation: Year: 1956; Microfilm serial: T715; Microfilm roll: T715_8714; Line: 6; .

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Isn't this him? It doesn't give his age but it looks like he traveled with Luigi in 1956.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 5:45 am    Post subject: Re: How to search more info about my GreatGrandpa? Reply with quote

nuccia wrote:

Isn't this him? It doesn't give his age but it looks like he traveled with Luigi in 1956.

Oh yes this is my Grandpa, my dad tell me today that my grandpa go in USA with her son Luigi not with my Greatgrandpa.
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