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PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 4:50 pm    Post subject: Latin or Italian translation? Reply with quote

I am posting this for a friend at my FHC. Not sure what we have here but only the 4th paragraph needs translation. This 4th paragraph mentions the surname Garzotto. These records are from near Venice.
Any help would be appreciated. www.montaltouffugo.inf.../scan1.jpg
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 6:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Latin or Italian translation? Reply with quote

It's not italian: it's a dialect from the Veneto (quite different from mine)!
There are a few words I can't understand. I'll post it in an italian site of genealogy where, I know, someone could help us.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 6:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Latin or Italian translation? Reply with quote

Thank you so much Luca!! kiss You are too wonderful!!!

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 7:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Latin or Italian translation? Reply with quote

Thanks to Moscjon, Mattmar, Simona and Luca Bertotti (and I hide ) members of TuttoGenealogia.it www.tuttogenealogia.it...file=index
this is the literal translation:

Alli 25 X(m)bris [1651]
Jo pre' Do(me)ngo de bartholi batizaj Zuane et Nadalin figliol de Ser Agostin de Zuane, compari Ant(oni)o Sponza de Ser Biasio, Do(me)ngo Testa, Jac(om)o Cusin et Bertholo Garzotto, comadre Simona figliolla de Franc(esc)o Mantovani, Marina del q(uondam) Ser Franc(esc)o Binussi et Menegina fiolla de Ser Biasio Sponza

In modern italian (with actual names):

Il 25 Dicembre 1561
Io Don Domenico de Bartoli battezzai Giovanni Natalino figlio del Signor Agostino di Giovanni, padrini Antonio Sponza del Signor Biagio, Domenico Testa, Giacomo Cusin e Bartolo Garzotto, madrine Simona figlia di Francesco Mantovani, Marina figlia del defunto Signor Francesco Binussi e Domenica figlia del Signor Biagio Sponza.

In the day 25 of December of the year 1561 the priest Domenico de Bartoli gave the baptism to Giovanni Natalino son of Agostino di Giovanni, there were 4 godfather ( Antonio Sponza , Domenico Testa, Giacomo Cusin e Bartolo Garzotto) and three godmother (Simona Mantovani, Marina Binussi e Domenica Sponza).

Two notes:
1) i'm not sure if Di Giovanni was a surname or the grandfather's name.
2) there is a remote probability that Giovanni and Natalino were two childrens and not one, because of a "e" between the names; but I think is a second name given to honour the Christmas day.

As usual: sorry for my bad English Embarassed

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 7:34 pm    Post subject: Re: Latin or Italian translation? Reply with quote

Wonderful Luca!!! Thank you so much! kiss And your english is not bad!

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 10:56 am    Post subject: Re: Latin or Italian translation? Reply with quote

Thank you Luca and Cathy so much- I was thinking about this all weekend and this just made my day. I can't tell you how happy I am. Cathy, I can't wait to get back to the LDS and find more- I read on the internet that Venetian is as close to Latin as it is modern Italian. I am pretty sure that my grandmother, who would be about 115 years old, spoke Venetian.:kissy:Marilyn
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 11:07 am    Post subject: Re: Latin or Italian translation? Reply with quote

I reread my translation, (as the first time I could hardly breathe) and I also want to thank Moscjon, Mattmar, and Simona. Thank you for taking the time to look at this document. I will stare at this all day. Heck with work!!!

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 5:22 pm    Post subject: Re: Latin or Italian translation? Reply with quote

mgarzotto wrote:
Thank you Luca and Cathy so much- I was thinking about this all weekend and this just made my day. I can't tell you how happy I am. Cathy, I can't wait to get back to the LDS and find more- I read on the internet that Venetian is as close to Latin as it is modern Italian. I am pretty sure that my grandmother, who would be about 115 years old, spoke Venetian.:kissy:Marilyn
I told you how wonderful Luca was! Very Happy You should have the scanner all to yourself tonight - I will not be there to hog it! Crying or Very sad

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