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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 11:03 pm    Post subject: What does this Mean? Reply with quote

I'm transcribing records (finally after 4 months of sitting on them) and I've come across a phrase I don't understand... Confused

Can someone translate it for me please?

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 4:57 am    Post subject: Re: What does the Mean? Reply with quote

What I read is:

Stella d'incerto padre, sua moglie, filatrice,

and I would translate:

Stella d'incerto (?) father, his wife, spinner (someone who spins, who twists fibers into threads)

If you link the whole sentence, I can be more precise.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 5:04 am    Post subject: Re: What does the Mean? Reply with quote

I would need to rescan it again in order to link the whole thing. But it's that word, Incerto that has me stumped. I'll scan it after woek today.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 9:12 am    Post subject: Re: What does the Mean? Reply with quote

Didn't Emmy make a post a while back about incerto meaning unknown?

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 10:43 am    Post subject: Re: What does the Mean? Reply with quote

That word is almost like the one we have in Spanish: Incierto, which means "Uncertain"...hope that helps some Wink



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 1:56 pm    Post subject: Re: What does the Mean? Reply with quote

Thanks you guys. I must have missed Emmy's post about that. Theres also another one I'm having trouble with. Will try and scan that one and post/

Liz, have a great trip and be safe, ok? We'll miss you.. kiss

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 2:17 pm    Post subject: Re: What does the Mean? Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 2:37 pm    Post subject: Re: What does the Mean? Reply with quote

I figured you would bring that along, although I think you're going to be too busy to play with it much!

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 4:34 pm    Post subject: Re: What does this Mean? Reply with quote

Yes Cathy your correct it said on one of my birth acts 'incerto padre' meaning 'no father' (space for father's name had been left blank ---sometimes it has been written as N. N.)
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 4:47 pm    Post subject: Re: What does this Mean? Reply with quote

I agree that "incerto padre" means "father uncertain", however I would like to see the full sentence before saying the last word.
Usually the word "ignoto", unknown, was used...

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 6:38 pm    Post subject: Re: What does this Mean? Reply with quote

Livio was I correct in in thinking that N.N. means 'no father'? The other words I've found were 'niente padre' and on some birth certificates instead of 'fu' being before the grandfather's name it had the word 'defunto' after it. Does this have the same meaning?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 9:39 pm    Post subject: Re: What does this Mean? Reply with quote

defunto means 'dead' or 'deceased' so its intention is the same as 'fu'

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 10:07 pm    Post subject: Re: What does this Mean? Reply with quote

Carole wrote:
defunto means 'dead' or 'deceased' so its intention is the same as 'fu'
Great thing to know! I have often seen this word generally used in reference to the home of the deceased.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 11:27 pm    Post subject: Re: What does this Mean? Reply with quote

Emmy wrote:
Livio was I correct in in thinking that N.N. means 'no father'?

Yes, you are correct.

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