x
Toggle Content Register or Login  -  September 22, 2017, 6:25 am
Toggle Content User Info
Toggle Content Main Menu
Toggle Content Last Posts
Last 10 Forum Messages

RESEACHING LUCIA NAPOLI DELIANOUVA
Last post by nuccia in Where do I begin? on Sep 22, 2017 at 06:13:48

Surname Serafini from Barga
Last post by Libby in Northern Italy on Sep 04, 2017 at 03:47:22

Sant'Elia Fiumerapido - De Filippis
Last post by Marchpatty in Central Italy on Aug 24, 2017 at 23:45:06

PUGLIESE OR VALEO
Last post by Biff83 in Central Italy on Aug 05, 2017 at 20:14:08

PUGLIESE OR VALEO
Last post by Biff83 in Southern Italy on Aug 05, 2017 at 20:13:41

PUGLIESE OR VALEO
Last post by Biff83 in Northern Italy on Aug 05, 2017 at 01:30:23

Ambrogio Bianchi
Last post by debbiemfit in Central Italy on Jul 31, 2017 at 17:49:19

Gentile ,Mammola, Calabria
Last post by nuccia in Southern Italy on Jul 20, 2017 at 07:52:30

looking for manifest of Sabato Pizzano changed to Pisano
Last post by DaveFerro in Southern Italy on Jul 19, 2017 at 21:29:46

Looking for Vincenzo Contrera
Last post by Biff83 in Southern Italy on Jul 10, 2017 at 23:36:16

Toggle Content Help Support this Site
Please support GentediMareGenealogy
Help us by supporting the future development of this site, or simply to say thank you.
Toggle Content EStore
Community Forums › All Things Italian › Translations › Cache of letters

     Forum FAQ   Search   Log in to check your private messages   Login  
Cache of letters
For help with translating documents or writing letters.
Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5 ... 15, 16, 17  Next

Post new topic   Reply to topic    Forum Index Translations Printer Friendly Page

View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
tjbrn
Explorer
Explorer


Joined: Jan 24, 2008
Posts: 487
Location: North Carolina

PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 2:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Cache of letters Reply with quote

Luca:
If I am, I am not aware of it; however, I have been learning more about people and things lately than I'd imagined!


Tom

_________________
Tom

Scribbling
Back to top
View user's profile
liviomoreno
V.I.P.
V.I.P.


Joined: Sep 08, 2007
Posts: 1134
Location: Rome (Italy)

PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 2:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Cache of letters Reply with quote

tjbrn wrote:
June 1932

Page1
img230.imageshack.us/i...ge1ag2.jpg

Page2
img262.imageshack.us/i...ge2ln0.jpg

Page3
img388.imageshack.us/i...ge3jj3.jpg

Page4
img101.imageshack.us/i...ge4ay0.jpg

I could enlarge them!

Page 1
Belmonte Mezzagno June 4, 1937
My dearest brother,
after a long time I receive your long waited letter, and I'm pleased to hear that your health is very well, together with your dear spouse and your beloved children. As of today I can assure you that myself and my spouse and all my dear children, as well as our sisters and their spouses and children, and also your sister in law and her spouse and children [are in good health].
Page 2
I also hope that when you will receive this letter also your mother in law and all the family is well.
Beloved brother, a lot of time has passed without receiving news from you and I was worried, because your brother never forgets you and my only thought is always for you father and mother who are not here anymore (they passed away) and therefore I cannot forget you that I would be a bird to see this dear brother who left me when I was a boy and now I am the father of 6 children.
Page 3
But would be very close to come to visit you the last time and to see you dear brother if you have white hair and I would still recognize you. That's enough, my dear brother, I only have to say that I hug and kiss you together with your wife and children and my children also kiss your hands and many kisses will give to your beloved children and believe me your very fond brother that always think about you. Tano Dragotta
Page 4
Good bye Good bye don't forget of your brother that always thinks about you.
Dear sister in law
one only thought and affectionate greetings with my heart, me, your dear brother in law that always thinks about you.
Good bye Good bye I am for ever your dear brother in law Tano Dragotta
Write to me and good news that I always think about you
a kiss to you and to my brother that I love you so much.

_________________
Livio

La mia genealogia
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
Luca
Translator
Translator


Joined: Jan 22, 2008
Posts: 695
Location: Terni - Italy

PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 3:19 pm    Post subject: Re: Cache of letters Reply with quote

Page1
img267.imageshack.us/i...ge1mm9.jpg

Belmonte Mezzagno 27 Novembre 1935.
Mio amato fratello, con molto ritardo ho ricevuto la tua desiderata lettera e ho grande piacere nel sentire che sei in buona salute così come lo è tua moglie, i tuoi amati figli, la famiglia di tua suocera e tutta la famiglia, come pure ti posso dire di me, di mia moglie e tutta la famiglia, amato fratello; ti ho scritto con un po' di ritardo ma la causa è che sono stato 10 giorni a curare la campagna, a seminare il frumento, lontano da qui al Pizzo Rame(?)...

Page2
img178.imageshack.us/i...ge2sh4.jpg

che tu lo puoi immaginare, amato fratello, e non sai quanto fremevo nell'attesa di tue notizie che tardavano ad arrivare e avevo il dubbio che tu potessi esserti offeso per qualche cosa che ti avevo scritto; fortunatamente leggo che non è così. L'importante è che ci sia la salute, amato fratello. Riguardo ai tuoi figli ho capito che ne hai 6 e sono 3 maschi e 3 femmine, e un altro sta per nascere, amato fratello; Dio vuole così, anche mia moglie ha avuto 5 figli, 4 femmine e 1 solo maschio e sarà (si chiama?) Stefano e un altro sta per nascere; sono contento che i tuoi figli vanno a scuola, anche i miei figli hanno frequentato la scuola, amato fratello, non ti posso.....


Ciao
Luca
Back to top
View user's profile
Luca
Translator
Translator


Joined: Jan 22, 2008
Posts: 695
Location: Terni - Italy

PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 3:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Cache of letters Reply with quote

tjbrn wrote:
Luca:
If I am, I am not aware of it; however, I have been learning more about people and things lately than I'd imagined!

Tom

Sorry, I confused Belmonte with Belpasso.
Ciao
Luca
Back to top
View user's profile
tjbrn
Explorer
Explorer


Joined: Jan 24, 2008
Posts: 487
Location: North Carolina

PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 8:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Cache of letters Reply with quote

8 June 1932 -- I think.

Page1
img183.imageshack.us/i...ge1bc4.jpg

Page2
img183.imageshack.us/i...ge2jj7.jpg

Page3
img264.imageshack.us/i...ge3jw9.jpg

Page4
img264.imageshack.us/i...ge4ej1.jpg
Back to top
View user's profile
Carole
Admin
Admin


Joined: Jul 10, 2007
Posts: 1662
Location: Valtellina - Near Lake Como

PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 5:30 am    Post subject: Re: Cache of letters Reply with quote

tjbrn wrote:
8 June 1932 -- I think.

Page1
img183.imageshack.us/i...ge1bc4.jpg

Page2
img183.imageshack.us/i...ge2jj7.jpg

Page3
img264.imageshack.us/i...ge3jw9.jpg

Page4
img264.imageshack.us/i...ge4ej1.jpg


You have already posted this here Tom and Livio has kindly translated it for you.

Tom - just a thought...it might be a good idea if you reference each letter and 'where' you post it. I only say this because translation work is time consuming and for translators to complete a document only to find that someone else has done it too, either here
or elsewhere, is maybe not the best way to keep them on board...

_________________

Researching: EDMED, SAVILL, TYSON, NEWCOMBE, STAPLETON, GUNTER, STAPLES
If you think education is expensive -try ignorance!

>Expats in Italy<
Come and join 'Dork and Friends'! >New Blog<
Back to top
View user's profile
tjbrn
Explorer
Explorer


Joined: Jan 24, 2008
Posts: 487
Location: North Carolina

PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 8:38 am    Post subject: Re: Cache of letters Reply with quote

Mi dispiace.

_________________
Tom

Scribbling
Back to top
View user's profile
tjbrn
Explorer
Explorer


Joined: Jan 24, 2008
Posts: 487
Location: North Carolina

PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 11:55 am    Post subject: Re: Cache of letters Reply with quote

Thanks to everyone for all of the hard work you have done translating the letters I've posted. I really do appreciate your generosity. I need to clear up something. The 8 Jun 1932 letter wasn't double posted; however, I did actually post the letter translated by Livo -4 Jun 1937-- which I had listed as a Jun 1932 date, on Mar 10 at another forum, and mistakenly posted it here some days later. It was my error. I'll use what I have been able to learn from your translations and apply that to the remaining letters. Thanks again for your help.

Tom

_________________
Tom

Scribbling
Back to top
View user's profile
nuccia
Admin
Admin


Joined: Jul 10, 2007
Posts: 4364
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada

PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 1:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Cache of letters Reply with quote

Tom I wish you luck with your translations. I will actually miss reading them! They were beautiful.

As for errors, we all make them and there is no harm done. I have confused things more times then I can remember!

Hope you will keep us posted on your research and if you need any other help, let us know!

_________________
nuccia
Italian Surname Database

Calabria Exchange
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website
Cathy
V.I.P.
V.I.P.


Joined: Jul 10, 2007
Posts: 2681

PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 4:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Cache of letters Reply with quote

I'll miss reading the letters too. I really enjoyed them.

_________________
Cathy
My Websites
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
tjbrn
Explorer
Explorer


Joined: Jan 24, 2008
Posts: 487
Location: North Carolina

PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 10:19 am    Post subject: Re: Cache of letters Reply with quote

nuccia wrote:
Tom I wish you luck with your translations. I will actually miss reading them! They were beautiful.!

Thanks, but I am afraid I will need more than luck! Hopefully, what is lost in translation will not be irrevocably so.

Tom
Back to top
View user's profile
Carole
Admin
Admin


Joined: Jul 10, 2007
Posts: 1662
Location: Valtellina - Near Lake Como

PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 11:24 am    Post subject: Re: Cache of letters Reply with quote

Oh Tom, but why risk losing the meaning behind such a wonderful family treasure that these letters represent. We were all excited by them and with the opportunity that you gave some of us to be involved with their translation.

I just hope that you were not upset when I suggested that you reference where you posted any letters. This was a means of saving the duplication of 'any' translators time - nothing more, and nothing less.

You, as a poster have the perfect right to post your requests for help on any forum/site you choose, and that is how it should be. My only concern was/is that the (often time consuming) translation work would have been repeated.

Tom - if I offended you then I apologise unreservedly. That was never my intention. The opportunity to translate your letters was a pleasure, and for me a particular challenge as I had never tried my hand at 'dialect' before. So please, sooner than risk losing the meaning of those poignant letters, do give another thought to allowing us to help by posting the others here too!

_________________

Researching: EDMED, SAVILL, TYSON, NEWCOMBE, STAPLETON, GUNTER, STAPLES
If you think education is expensive -try ignorance!

>Expats in Italy<
Come and join 'Dork and Friends'! >New Blog<
Back to top
View user's profile
tjbrn
Explorer
Explorer


Joined: Jan 24, 2008
Posts: 487
Location: North Carolina

PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 6:16 pm    Post subject: Re: Cache of letters Reply with quote

Carole, I suppose I do tend to over react since I had just mentioned this site in a post here: tomarie.tzo.com/wp/200...ractions/. It's the Sicilian blood, what can I say! I did take to heart your suggestion for better organization; posting from both desktop and laptop can be problematic when trying to keep files, etc. in sync. Sorry, I didn't get back sooner. It was a beautiful day here in NC and I spent a good portion of it outside tending to flower beds, gardens and such. As the letters progress they do offer more information regarding family members, etc. There is also commentary regarding the war in the 1945 letters, the last of which is just a month before I was born. Ironically, my first spoken language was Italian as my mother and I lived with my grandparents while my father was in the Army in the Pacific Theater--I was born after he was called up, so I was over a year old before he was discharged and came home to a son babbling in a foreign language (in my father's eyes--he wasn't Italian). There is also a remote chance that more letters exist, although I have been unable to persuade this other family member to respond to my requests regarding the same. So, yes, I'll gladly upload more letters a little later. I wouldn't want to waste the lesson of William Carlos William's poem, The Red Wheelbarrow.

so much depends
upon

a red wheel
barrow

glazed with rain
water

beside the white
chickens.

Tom

_________________
Tom

Scribbling
Back to top
View user's profile
Luca
Translator
Translator


Joined: Jan 22, 2008
Posts: 695
Location: Terni - Italy

PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 7:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Cache of letters Reply with quote

Tom wrote:
... I must add that I have rarely met a more generous, competent group of people who truly do come together as a community; it is my experience that the genealogists I have met tend to have a special proclivity for this sort of behavior. Through their unselfish efforts, part of my family’s saga continues to unfold and inform the present of its hardships, tragedies, joys, and its steadfast commitment to the bonds of familial love through the humble outpourings of voices from the past...

Peccando forse in modestia, mi sento lieto di averti aiutato a comprendere (e, in qualche modo, avvicinare) il tuo passato.
Se ce ne sarà l'occasione proverò a darti ancora il mio contributo.
Ciao
Luca
Back to top
View user's profile
Carole
Admin
Admin


Joined: Jul 10, 2007
Posts: 1662
Location: Valtellina - Near Lake Como

PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 7:18 pm    Post subject: Re: Cache of letters Reply with quote

Luca wrote:
Tom wrote:
... I must add that I have rarely met a more generous, competent group of people who truly do come together as a community; it is my experience that the genealogists I have met tend to have a special proclivity for this sort of behavior. Through their unselfish efforts, part of my family’s saga continues to unfold and inform the present of its hardships, tragedies, joys, and its steadfast commitment to the bonds of familial love through the humble outpourings of voices from the past...

Peccando forse in modestia, mi sento lieto di averti aiutato a comprendere (e, in qualche modo, avvicinare) il tuo passato.
Se ce ne sarà l'occasione proverò a darti ancora il mio contributo.
Ciao
Luca

Luca says:
In all modesty I feel so pleased to have helped you to understand (and in some way become closer to) your past.
If the occasion should arise again I will try to help you by offering my contribution again.

Ciao

_________________

Researching: EDMED, SAVILL, TYSON, NEWCOMBE, STAPLETON, GUNTER, STAPLES
If you think education is expensive -try ignorance!

>Expats in Italy<
Come and join 'Dork and Friends'! >New Blog<


Last edited by Carole on Sun Mar 30, 2008 10:15 am; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
View user's profile
  Page 4 of 17All times are GMT - 4 Hours

Post new topic   Reply to topic    Forum Index Translations Printer Friendly Page

  
 
Jump to:  



You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum



Hosted By Site5.com
The logos and trademarks used on this site are the property of Gente di Mare Genealogy.
We are not responsible for comments posted by our users, as they are the opinions of the poster.
Interactive software released under GNU GPL, Code Credits, Privacy Policy
TCD_ItalianGene © Gente di Mare Genealogy