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#1: riccardo Author: riccardo PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 3:53 am
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hi i was looking to find any info about riccardos that went to argentina in the late 40,s and 50,s from calabria,nocera terinese. Any info on ship manifest passenger lists pictures of anyone my grandfather was on with my 2 aunts. They live in Buenos Aires.


If anybody has any info on how to locate and find ship names and ports would be greatly appreciated and where i can start?

Thanks Fernando

#2: Re: riccardo Author: CaroleLocation: Valtellina - Near Lake Como PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 6:55 am
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Hi Fernando and a warm welcome to "Gente".



I'm sure some of our members will try and help you and also suggest ways you can find what you are looking for. But with just a surname it will be very difficult. A little more information will be needed.

Perhaps you could start with your grandfathers and two aunts names, their date of birth (if you have them) and really anything else you know about the 'Riccardos'. That will at least provide a good starting point start looking.

Good luck with your search and why not tell us a little about yourself too?

#3: Re: riccardo Author: BillieDeKidLocation: Illinois PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 3:58 pm
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Hi Fernando

I have a couple of questions. Do you live in Italy? If not where do you live?

You're stating your grandfather went with your 2 aunts and you say they live in Buenos Aires. So they are still alive?

If they're still alive have you had any contact with them in the past?

I'll wait until I hear back from you.

Elizabeth

#4: Re: riccardo Author: riccardo PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 9:44 pm
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hi thanks to everyone who responded,sorry my grandfathers name is ferdinando riccardo he is now deceased,he died in the 1970s,my two aunts are alive,as they dont want to talk about it,my father did go back to argentina and i got some more info but it was weak,i live in canada i wanted to know some more info cause of death stuff like that,i am curious about my grandfather i am not to interested in my aunts as i know there well being,he seems to be a ghost as i had no contact with him,he also served in the war,he was born in 11-09-1907 nocera terinese,cantazaro calabria,he entered aroun argentina 15-4-1947 to 1948 with my aunts,any kind of info would be greatly appreciated fernando

#5: Re: riccardo Author: BillieDeKidLocation: Illinois PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 12:15 am
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Hi Ferdinando,

I asked another forum member that has an ancestry.com subscription to look for passenger records for Ferdinando Riccardo traveling with two daughters in 1947-1948 to Argentina. Unfortunately nothing was found. I'm giving you the links to a couple of places that might be able to help you obtain information about your grandfather.

This link is for the Argentinian embassy in Canada. If you call them or email them and explain that you are seeking information about your grandfather they should be able to tell you where and how to get that information. For example......death certificate of your grandfather with cause of death etc. How to obtain a copy of the ships manifest.
www.argentina-canada.net/home.html

The following are sites you might want to check provided you speak spanish or have someone that can translate for you.

www.cemla.com/home.php

213.212.128.168/radici...aultie.htm


The following information is provided by the LDS and gives you a basic outline for obtaining information from Argentina.

Municipal Archives and Local Civil Offices

The provinces are divided into departments which are divided into municipalities. Each municipality has a civil registry office, one or two notaries, civil and criminal courts, and a municipal government to administer all other matters. Every municipality has jurisdiction over their own archives, separate from the province archives. These offices are comparable to county courthouses in the United States.

In Argentina, civil records created by the local government, including birth, death, and marriage records, are kept in local municipal offices. These records are available to the public.

You can get information and copies of the records kept at the local civil offices by writing.

Inventories, Registers, Catalogs

Most archives have catalogs, inventories, guides, or periodicals that describe their records and how to use them. The National Archive has numerous, both published and manuscript catalogues, plus a card index. If possible, study these guides before you visit or use the records of an archive so that you can use your time more effectively.

Some of these guides are available at the Family History Library, at your public or university library, or through interlibrary loan.

The Family History Library has copies of some of the published inventories, and other guides, catalogs, directories, and inventories of these and other libraries. These types of records are listed in the Family History Library Catalog under:

ARGENTINA - ARCHIVES AND LIBRARIES

ARGENTINA, PROVINCE - ARCHIVES AND LIBRARIES

You can search the LDS website www.lds.org for any of the above information.

I think your best option is to contact your embassy and have them instruct you on how to obtain records.

I'm sorry I couldn't be of more help to you. If there are any forum members that are familiar with obtaining records/information from Argentina, please jump in.

Please let us know what you decide to do and update us on your progress.

Elizabeth

#6: Re: riccardo Author: uantitiLocation: Biella (Piedmont) and Venezia/Venice, Italy PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 8:52 am
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Hi,
if you go to the site here below, you will find a lot of links. Also click on the word "Inmigracion" on your left and then select Argentina. It could be useful and in case you don't understand Spanish you can use an on-line translator for simple words.

http://www.apellidositalianos.com.ar/

Ada



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