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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 3:52 pm    Post subject: Croatia Reply with quote

Hi all, now I have a question. Is there any way I could find immigration info for people leaving Italy for Croatia? My mom is Croatian, from a little town called Zablace, and I think a few surnames are italian. My great great great grandfather (lotta greats I know) was Marko Cibola and he was the one who came from Italy I am told. I don't know where e came from which could be a problem, and I don't know his birth date either.

I got that info from my great grandma's sister who is very good with this kind of stuff. Her mother was a Rosini. Her father was Giovanni Rosini, but I don't know anything more about him either. I would like to learn more but with my info being very limited I don't know where to begin. Any ideas?
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 4:22 pm    Post subject: Re: Croatia Reply with quote

Mike, maybe if you could post what you know about the Rosini's we could try and help. Rough dates, when they came here (roughly) anything you know.



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 4:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Croatia Reply with quote

Mike here is a link for an 1800's map of Europe. You'll see that Croatia was part of Austria. Look across from the middle of Italy and you will see water and then the coast, on the coast you will see Split.
www.euratlas.com/big/e...ml#%20here

Here is a current day map of Croatia and you will see Split
www.visit-croatia.co.uk/map/

So my question to everyone would be............did Mikes family travel by land to get to Croatia or sail. If his family was from Udine etc. it would make sense to travel by land. If from the Abruzzi region then by ship.

I'll keep looking Mike. And Jim is right, if you have any other info let us know. kiss

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 4:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Croatia Reply with quote

The Cibola name is coming up mainly in the region of Veneto
gens.labo.net/it/cogno...enera.html

en.comuni-italiani.it/05/index.html

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Croatian genealogy guide
feefhs.org/cro/cghs-gcg.html

Croation Genealogy Home page
feefhs.org/cro/frg-hr.html

Croatian genealogy links (this one includes ship passenger lists)
www.genealogylinks.net...index.html

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 1:00 am    Post subject: Re: Croatia Reply with quote

See, the problem is that I don't know anything else about either the Cibola's or Rosini's. I will try to call my great grandma's sister she is the only one who would know, but she speaks mostly Croatian and I'm a tad rusty so we'll see how that works out.

Thanks for the links I will browse them, and see if I can find anything. I might have better luck with the Cibola's, I think there are less of them.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 4:08 am    Post subject: Re: Croatia Reply with quote

MikeSavoca91 wrote:
Hi all, now I have a question. Is there any way I could find immigration info for people leaving Italy for Croatia? My mom is Croatian, from a little town called Zablace, and I think a few surnames are italian. My great great great grandfather (lotta greats I know) was Marko Cibola and he was the one who came from Italy I am told. I don't know where e came from which could be a problem, and I don't know his birth date either.

I got that info from my great grandma's sister who is very good with this kind of stuff. Her mother was a Rosini. Her father was Giovanni Rosini, but I don't know anything more about him either. I would like to learn more but with my info being very limited I don't know where to begin. Any ideas?
Right after WWII hundreds of thousands of Italian living in Croatia (especially in Dalmatia and Istria) left their houses and lands and escaped to Italy. Many of them emigrated to US and Australia.
History of Croatia is very complex... Many Italian moved there when Istra and Dalmatia belonged to Venice. My wife's family was from Veneto and moved to Istria in the 17th century. They always considered themselves Italian, even when the country belonged to Austria.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 12:48 am    Post subject: Re: Croatia Reply with quote

Livio,

I know that my great grandma oddly enough didn't like Italians (but LOVED my dad and I go figure) she was the granddaughter of almost all Italians. I would really love to work back, but my main problem is dates, if I had some dates, I could go into depth you know.

My great grandmother's sister is a book when it comes to this stuff, so I really need to ask her. Croatian genealogy is very complex, small towns have a lot of cousins and stuff the same for Italy. Ugh I wish I started doing the family tree when I was younger..... neclord
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 1:08 am    Post subject: Re: Croatia Reply with quote

MikeSavoca91 wrote:
Ugh I wish I started doing the family tree when I was younger..... neclord
Weren't you about 10 when you started? So how much younger could you have started?! Really Mike - you are doing a great job. Didn't you tell me you had cousins there? Can they help?

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 2:52 am    Post subject: Re: Croatia Reply with quote

Yeah, Mike, don't be silly. Some of us were twice your age when we started! Believe it or not, when I go to genealogy events most people are a lot older than I am! Someone even said to me, oh look a young person! It seems that many family history buffs are grandparents. So, you are way ahead of the curve!

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 6:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Croatia Reply with quote

Well I guess you have a point, I really couldn't have started much sooner but still! I feel like I just missed some great people, you know. Now most who is feft is OLD so I have to work fast. I wish I could drive, that will start soon, and then I can go and see who I need to see. I do have family in Croatia, but the problem is that some of the info is really old, people who died in the teens and 20's when most of these people were babies. On the plus side, my grandma is close with the town's priest, and he has the record books for like 200 years with everything in it. Now I have to wait till summer, more of a reason to wish school was over lol.

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