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PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 6:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Cache of letters Reply with quote

Ignazio was my maternal grandfather.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 4:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Cache of letters Reply with quote

Scusatemi se rispondo in italiano.
Credo che la nipote di Tano non abbia veramente idea di dove possano essere quelle lettere (sempreché esistano ancora). Spero, però, che dia uno sguardo a questa discussione per capire che dietro la mia richiesta non ci sono altri fini; e magari chieda a sua madre (o a qualche zia ancora in vita) se possiede qualche altra informazione che possa tornare utile alla ricerca di Tom, facendocelo sapere tramite questo forum o al numero di telefono che io le ho lasciato. O, perché no? Magari può essere presa dalla curiosità di conoscere il suo cugino americano e riallacciare dei rapporti che il tempo aveva cancellato.
Due anni fa una cugina di mia madre che è nata ed ha sempre vissuto negli States, è venuta a trovarci in Italia: abbiamo avuto il piacere di ospitare lei e una sua nipote per tre giorni e abbiamo visitato insieme il paese natale di suo nonno ed altri luoghi della nostra terra. E' stata un'esperienza piacevolisima anche per noi (ho anche provato a migliorare il mio inglese parlato... ma senza troppi risultati Very Happy ).

Only a question for Tom: is Ignazio your paternal or maternal grandfather? (This is one of the questions I wasn't able to replay)

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 4:22 pm    Post subject: Re: Cache of letters Reply with quote

WOW!!! Luca you are amazing! I'm going to cross my fingers and toes for you too Tom! This is so exciting! Especially after reading all these wonderful letters.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 4:18 pm    Post subject: Re: Cache of letters Reply with quote

Luca, sei tanto gentile!

What exciting news for you, Tom!

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 3:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Cache of letters Reply with quote

I'm speechless! Luca, you are indeed a bearer of light!

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 2:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Cache of letters Reply with quote

Wow...thats amazing.

Luca, this is so nice of you. Tom, Keeping fingers and toes crossed too!

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 2:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Cache of letters Reply with quote

Luca you're wonderful!!! Congratulations Tom! Maybe she'll be in touch with you.....crossing fingers and toes.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 2:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Cache of letters Reply with quote

Good news

I found Tano's granddaughter. Now she lives in Torino. She was so kind with me, also if she didn't understand why I was asking her such things. I told her to visit this site: hope she'll do it! (she also asked me about you, Tom, but I wasn't able to give her such informations!)
She said her grandfather (Tano) spent last part of his life in Torino, and there he died. It's almost impossible (she said) that Ignazio's letters have been stored; it's nearly sure they were lost during the relocation (if not before).
I gave her my number: maybe she'll phone me back.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 12:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Cache of letters Reply with quote

OK So a BAR in Belmonte is the same as a BAR in the US Razz
Thanks for all of your efforts, Luca. We might be able to get a better response from the Dragotto's if we met them in that BAR and plied them with our charm and other libations lol

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 12:34 pm    Post subject: Re: Cache of letters Reply with quote

Luca wrote:
This is a Bar

I phoned again at Giuseppa Dragotto and she told me that because of an error at the "Stato Civile" almost all the Dragotta and Dragotto in Belmonte are relatives, but she (and her mother - 85) don't remember nobody called Tano or Gaetano Dragotta.
I left her my phone number: if she will be able to find out something, she'll recall me.

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WOW Luca! That was so nice of you to call for Tom! (by the way, I love the picture of the bar!)
Tom: It was actually more common than you realize to have the same family go by different spellings. I have come across many examples in my own grandfather's town.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 11:28 am    Post subject: Re: Cache of letters Reply with quote

This is a Bar

I phoned again at Giuseppa Dragotto and she told me that because of an error at the "Stato Civile" almost all the Dragotta and Dragotto in Belmonte are relatives, but she (and her mother - 85) don't remember nobody called Tano or Gaetano Dragotta.
I left her my phone number: if she will be able to find out something, she'll recall me.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 11:09 am    Post subject: Re: Cache of letters Reply with quote

According to information I've received from Belmonte Mezzagno the surname is Dragotto. Images from microfilm also bear this out as well. Tano's grandfather, Ignazio Dragotto was born in Palermo but married Grazia Pizzo in Belmonte. I am currently awaiting the arrival of additional information I've requested from both Belmonte and San Giuseppe. I am afraid I do not have enough information to narrow the list and focus on one specific name that is on the list. What does "BAR" signify in the listing of the Dragotto's?

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 10:28 am    Post subject: Re: Cache of letters Reply with quote

Quindi il vero cognome di Tano è Dragotto o Dragotta?
Perché a Belmonte ci sono anche dei Dragotto ( Pagine Bianche ) ai quali eventualmente chiedere

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 8:41 am    Post subject: Re: Cache of letters Reply with quote

Luca,
Thanks for looking into that connection. When I checked the Pagine Blanche link I noticed that the spelling of the surnames was different from Tano's. The names listed ended with an "a" instead of an "o".
Looking ahead to the remaining letters, Tano does mention the names of his children. Stefano is married but apparently has no children. Another boy, Pietrino is unmarried. The oldest daughter, Giuseppina, has two boys with another child on the way. Two other daughters are unmarried: Rosetta and Bettina (could be Rettina). Angelina Greco is the granddaughter, I think, of one of Tano's sisters and she is listed at the address -- 31 Piazza Garibaldi in Belmonte. Tano's sisters are mentioned as well: Stefana, Grazia, Concettina (who has died). Other sources indicate there was another sister, Grazia, who was the first child and died and another sister named Filippa.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 7:28 am    Post subject: Re: Cache of letters Reply with quote

Sad Sad Sad
Stefano è figlio di Cristoforo di Giovanni
Giuseppa è nipote di Cristoforo
Peccato!

Quali sono le informazioni in tuo possesso su Tano? I nomi delle figlie li conosci? Altro?

Fammi sapere

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