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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2009 1:17 pm    Post subject: 2 professions: civile and forese Reply with quote

Hi, I was wondering if I could get a little help in understanding two professions that I have come across in my Caccuri research.

The first is civile. I have looked this up in two sources that describe the profession as a non-noble land owner. I am wondering if the word was used to describe anything else. I have seen this profession listed on a Caccuri record for a woman whose husband was a shoe-maker. I have also seen this profession listed for a woman whose husband was a contadino. My great-great-great grandfather was a contadino but his sister is listed on one document from 1815 as a civile and another document in 1823 as a contadina. I find this very confusing. Does anyone know more about the word civile? Must it always imply land ownership?

Also, I have seen a profession that I believe might be spelled forese. I have no idea what this is. I have seen it for both women and men. I can't seem to find a definition for it anywhere. Perhaps I am reading it wrong. Any ideas on forese?

Thanks in advance for your help!

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PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2009 8:34 pm    Post subject: Re: 2 professions: civile and forese Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sun May 17, 2009 4:28 am    Post subject: Re: 2 professions: civile and forese Reply with quote

I've also seen "civile" which literally means civilian...
As for "forese" it should be equivalent of "contadino"

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PostPosted: Sun May 17, 2009 3:44 pm    Post subject: Re: 2 professions: civile and forese Reply with quote

Thank you, Livio, your dictionary is much better than mine. So it sounds like a for├ęse is like a farmer who lives somewhere outside the walled citadella. Makes sense.

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