Ada,

Here's a link to the 1900 census you mentioned above. They're living in Missouri with John's parents and siblings.
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Biff

Thank you Biff. Sorry, I forgot to say I found that website some times ago. I found there John Nicolazzi's marriage. His wife' surname was mispelled. They wrote Rogers Panacea. The surname sounds very English but the first name was typical of Novara area. So I searched manifests having a passenger with first name Panacea. I was lucky enough, there were just a few and one of them was Panacea Ruggero. Guess where she was going? To Osage City to her friend John Nicolazzi. She was on ship La Gascogne on April 16, 1900. They got married on April 22. Unfortunately her town of origin was mispelled as they wrote "Chenne" which doesn't exist. The nearest name in the province of Novara is a town called Ghemme and may be that is the one.

Ancestry listed them in Kansas (but I don't have the images)
1900 United States Federal Census
Census & Voter Lists

Name: John Nicolayzi
Age: 27

Home in 1900

Name: John Nicolayzi
Spouse: Panacla
Birth: date - location
Marriage: year
More: See all information..

and in Appanoose County they were listed as John and Pamy Nicolazzo and later on as John Nicolaffi and she became Panacea Oggero.

I had also seen Teresa's marriage (on Osage County website) that's how I knew the date she got married.
They all moved to Missouri, then to Centerville and nearby towns in Appanoose County, Iowa where many other went in the following years always working as coal miners. Emil's surname was sometimes mispelled and listed as Barretta.
I wonder if there are passports, naturalization papers, or any other record showing Emil Beretta's place of birth or name of parents as well as for Panacea Ruggero Nicolazzi. Thanks in advance.

Ada

Ada,

I also located the following from Osage County Marriage records:
www.kscourts.org/dstct...smarec.htm

Marriage record listing for John Nicolazzi
www.kscourts.org/dstcts/4osmrn.htm

Marriage record listing for Teresa Nicolazzi and Emil Beretta, listed under groom's name.
www.kscourts.org/dstct...smrbae.htm

Biff

Hello Biff, thank you very much, very kind of you.
Yes, the ship manifest confirms he was Francesco Nicolazzi. There are another two men with him from the same town, all relatives, Giuseppe Guglielmetti and Davide Tosone (Tosoni).

Thank you for the census which seems to be a real puzzle! Assuming that Frank could have made himself 10 years younger, I don't know who's Pauline. Frank's wife was Maria Marchini born May 1851. She went to Osage on July 10, 1893 on ship FULDA from Genoa with her five younger children. She's listed as "Macchini Niccol" and children are listed as Macchini too. Don't ask me how I found it, it took me years.
They also had two older children who went back and from US:

-Giovanni (John) born 1872 and he's probably the one on the census. I found and saw a very faded manifest for him on ship WERRA on Nov 20 1894 from Genoa.

and
- Angelo born 1874. He seems to have passed through Canada once
ANGELO NICOLAZZI, LABORER, 23, M, 28 Mar 1897, LA TOURAINE, HAVRE, GREAT BRITAIN
CANADA BOGOGNO Destination Chicago
He declares he was in Osage City from 1894 to 1903.

Frank jr. on the census must be Luigi whose second name was Francesco.
They had double and also three names, all similar and they were using them alternatively so you can understand who they are only with dates. I wonder where is the rest of the family.
I found that their daughter Teresa got married in 1894 to Emil Beretta. Emil Beretta is a mistery. On Family Search I found a 1900 Census for Missouri where Nicolazzis and Berettas went. He is listed as Beretta E. and declares he was born in 1867 and immigrated on 1890 but I couldn't find any ship manifest for him. I'm trying to understand what town is he from.

Thanks for everybody's help.

Ada

Hello, Ada

Thought I'd jump in here to see if I can help. Below is the link to the manifest you referenced. See lines 32 and 33. F. Nicoazzi travelling with G. Giulemeti (Gugliemetti?).

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1895 Kansas Census, Osage City Kansas
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Let me know what other records you are looking for and I'll see what I can find.

Biff

A very kind member of this forum asked me if I needed any help to find records for my relatives who went to US. Well, yes. I found many ship manifests using Steve Morse website and some census on family search but there are some misteries I couldn't solve.
My relatives were from Bogogno, province of Novara. The spelling for the town and the province had many variations and so did the names. Some surnames are very common in Italy and that causes confusion. On some manifests there was no town of origin but I could locate them as they travelled with other relatives from the same town. They started to emigrate around 1890 and their first destination was Osage City, Kansas, sometimes only mentioned as Kansas. Among first ones was Francesco Nicolazzi born on June 12,1847 who travelled a lot and might have been in South America before or Canada. I found a record on Castle Garden which could be him on his first travel to US:

F. NICOAZZI Occupation LABORER
Age 41
Sex M
Literacy U
Ship CHATEAU LAFITE
Arrived 24 Aug 1888
Origin ITALY
Port BORDEAUX
Last Residence
Destination 7328
Plan Unknown
Passage Unknown

The age corresponds. If Elizabeth can see the manifest, there might be others with him having those surnames listed below my signature. I don't know if he travelled to US before that date, his name could have been mispelled also as Nicolazzo, Nicolassi, Nicolozzi, etc.
All of his family moved to US few years later but that's another story.

Thank you for your help

Ada