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Luca
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 6:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Translation Help Reply with quote

In bold the main things that are written in the civil doc. you pointed out.
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Tiger965 wrote:

~Lucia born 24 April 1872 da Grazia Siramondo (27) del fu Gaetano e Giuseppe Sapienza (32) del fu Michelangelo di professione agricolo residenti nel Rione La Collegiata. La dichiarazione di nascita è resa dalla levatrice Lucia Pappalardo perché il padre è assente.
Civil Registration
img526.imageshack.us/i...nzaav5.jpg


~Domenica born 26 October 1875
Civil Registration
img116.imageshack.us/i...za3ar9.jpg
It doesn't run!


~Natale (the name is ok: he is a male; somewhere in the topic was told Natalia, female, but it was an error due to the low quality of the pic) born 25 (in the civil registration is said 24) December 1880. Figlio di Proietta Lucia, contadina, e Giuseppe Sapienza, campagnolo, abitanti nel quartiere Purgatorio. Tra i testimoni c'è un Distefano Antonino di anni 37 maestro elementare. La dichiarazione di nascita è resa dalla levatrice Carmela Distefano perché il padre è assente dal paese. Annotazione a margine: Sapienza Natale ha contratto matrimonio con Carmela Rapisarda fu Giuseppe il 22 Luglio 1906 a Belpasso.
Civil Registration img398.imageshack.us/i...g91tg7.jpg


~Joanny (Giovanni) born 29 September 1882, figlio di Giuseppe Sapienza (47) e Distefano Lucia, contadina, domiciliati nel quartiere Collegiata. Annotazione a margine: Sapienza Giovanni ha contratto matrimonio con xxx Concetta figlia di Rosario il 7 Novembre 1908 a Belpasso.
Civil Registration img329.imageshack.us/i...g70iz5.jpg


~ Alfio born 10 (nel registro civile dice che è nato il giorno 11 alle ore 8,15) May 1884. Figlio di Distefano Lucia, contadina, e Giuseppe Sapienza, contadino, domiciliati nel quartiere Collegiata. La dichiarazione di nascita è resa dalla levatrice Carmela Distefano (61) perché il padre è assente dal paese.
Civil Registration img169.imageshack.us/i...g42qa0.jpg

~Maria Guardia (ok) born 22 (nel registro civile dice che è nata il giorno 21 alle ore 12,15) September 1885. Figlia di Distefano Lucia, contadina, e Giuseppe Sapienza, contadino, domiciliati nel quartiere Collegiata. La dichiarazione di nascita è resa dalla levatrice Carmela Distefano (62) perché il padre è assente dal paese.
Civil Registration img169.imageshack.us/i...751sj1.jpg
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 7:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Translation Help Reply with quote

Tiger965 wrote:


I think I found a Domenica (the name is Veneranda) child of Alfio Sapienza (40) campagnolo, and Maria Mio (30). The date of birth is on the previous page, anyway the month is Maggio and the year 1867.
img211.imageshack.us/i...g26km2.jpg

also Antonino child of Alfio Sapienza (46) villico, and Maria Mio, contadina, born February 25 1876
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img516.imageshack.us/i...no2me3.jpg

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 4:54 am    Post subject: Re: Translation Help Reply with quote

For Rita:

OK - here's what you should be doing to post an image link from Image Shack that readers can open, or one that is ready opened to read...

1. Get your image hosted by Image Shack.

2.Choose the resize image you want for it and then check that box.?
640x480 (for message boards) is good.

3. When hosting is complete choose the 'link' you wish to use (the 'Direct link to image' is a good one) and cut ready to paste to your 'Reply' at "Gente"

4.On your reply box choose the 'image' box (little mountain) if you wantthe document to remain open like a picture. (Not too good for documents - takes up a lot of room)

OR

5.Choose the 'Link' icon (winged world) and paste your copied link in the box provided.... ensure that you don't have TWO http:// signs in that box before you post it - if you have then, delete one of them or it wont work!

6.In the SECOND box enter the name or 'your code/ref' for the document.
this one should look like this in your reply box before you 'Preview' or 'Submit'

[url=http://xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxjpg. ]Your document name[/url]

and like this AFTER you post

Your document name

Hope this helps...

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 8:04 am    Post subject: Re: Translation Help Reply with quote

Tiger965 wrote:
Hi Everyone. Here is my list that I put together of Giuseppe's family. I know I have Vito Sapienza (#2) on paper but I have to go back and put it on my flashdrive. I can't seem to find it to post. Hope they all check out fine for you. Very Happy
Giuseppe Sapienza married Grazia Siramondo

~Vito born 15 March 1866
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Civil Registration
[u]http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/6553/vitomarban1pdfaq4.jpg
img248.imageshack.us/i...an2jb9.jpg

~Gaetano born 23 February 1869
Church Record
Civil Registration http//img513.imageshack.us/img513/7076/fodanocrpg5bq7.jpg[/color]

~Lucia born 24 April 1872
Church Record
Civil Registration
http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/4728/luciasapienzaav5.jpg

Guseppe Sapienza married Lucia Distefano Proietto 28 January 1875
Civil Registration img166.imageshack.us/i...sapos7.jpg

~Domenica born 26 October 1875
Church Record
Civil Registration img519.imageshack.us/i...g60ix6.jpg

~Grazia born 26 Gennaio 1877
Church Record
Civil Registration img137.imageshack.us/i...nzasv0.jpg
img116.imageshack.us/i...za2rt5.jpg

~Vito born 17 February 1878
Church Record
Civil Registration
http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/8702/vitosapienza2qs5.jpg

http://img398.imageshack.us/img398/6599/vito2crpg14kg5.jpg

~Natale born 25 December 1880
Church Record img201.imageshack.us/i...lpotv7.jpg
Civil Registration http://img398.imageshack.us/img398/8149/nataliecrpg91tg7.jpg

~Joanny born 29 September 1882
Church Record img201.imageshack.us/i...posjf0.jpg
Civil Registration http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/9466/giovannicrpg70iz5.jpg

~ Alfio born 10 May 1884
Church Record www.calabriangenealogy...pienza.jpg
Civil Registration http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/4310/alfiocrpg42qa0.jpg

~Maria Guardia born 22 September 1885
Church Record img444.imageshack.us/i...ostsd3.jpg
Civil Registration http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/9066/mariaguardiacrpg751sj1.jpg [color=maroon]http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/8494/mariaguardiacrpg752hg6.jpg[/color]

~Rosa born 10 April 1887
Church Record www.gentedimaregenealo...mage.y.jpg
Civil Registration img525.imageshack.us/4...sa9hc1.jpg

~Agata born 22 April 1890
Church Record
Civil Registration img201.imageshack.us/i...zacv2i.jpg
img206.imageshack.us/i...a10iu0.jpg

~Salvatore born 24 December 1891
Church Record img352.imageshack.us/3...ecom13.jpg
Civil Registration img525.imageshack.us/i...e11iu7.jpg
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~Francesco born 4 April 1893
Church Record www.calabriangenealogy...MRita1.jpg
Civil Registration img525.imageshack.us/i...costd4.jpg

~Venero Eugenio born 6 March 1896
Church Record img144.imageshack.us/i...niork0.jpg
Civil Registration

~Anna born 1 July 1899
Church Record www.calabriangenealogy...Mrita2.jpg
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 3:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Translation Help Reply with quote

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~Vito born 17 February 1878
Civil Registration
img398.imageshack.us/i...g14kg5.jpg

Luca -

Tiger posted this after she went back to FHC and got a clearer image. Just out of curiousity, can you post what the mothers name is? This would be the third surname for Lucia (if you think this is the same Lucia Proietto/DiStefano).

The link doesn't work, you have to copy it and paste it to your browser bar.

Grazie
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 3:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Translation Help Reply with quote

E' difficile da dire Confused Sembra Lindo, ma potrebbe essere anche Santo e in ogni caso è una cosa molto strana perché Lucia è sempre la stessa (almeno secondo me): diciamo che potrebbe essere una "distrazione" dell'Ufficiale di Stato Civile Sad

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 5:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Translation Help Reply with quote

Grazie. Sì e' strano.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 9:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Translation Help Reply with quote

I am almost done with the children of Giuseppe. I have found Agata Sapienza's Church Record and have posted it on page 13 with the rest of my list. Thank you all for your help. Happy Easter! ~ Rita
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 6:17 am    Post subject: Re: Translation Help Reply with quote

Tiger965 wrote:

~Agata born 22 April 1890
Church Record img141.imageshack.us/i...pg6ps5.jpg

Agatha Sapienza filia Joseph
Anno Domini millesimo octingentesimo nonagesimo. Die vegesima septima aprilis.
Ego Sanctes Distefano xxx Cappellanus Insignis Collegiatae Matricis Ecclesiae sub titulo Immacolatae Conceptionis huius Communis Pulchripassus infantem die vigesima prima huius Aprilis natam ex Lucia Distefano et pracreatam ex Josepho Sapienza coniugibus baptizavi, et nominavi Agatham xxx uti matrina Agatha Spampinato.
In cujus rei confirmationem subscrive.

On the left: Agata Sapienza figlia di Giuseppe.
Nell'anno del Signore 1890. Il giorno 27 di Aprile.
Io Sante Distefano xxx Cappellano [The priest is (perhaps) a Lucia's relative] di questa Insigne Chiesa Collegiata dell'Immacolata Concezione di Pulcripasso, [is the name of Belpasso in Latin, pulcher stands for bello that stands for beautiful] battezai una bambina nata il giorno 21 di questo mese di Aprile da Lucia Distefano e procreata da Giuseppe Sapienza coniugi, a cui imposi il nome di Agata. xxx Matrina è stata Agata Spampinato.
Nelle quali cose sttoscrivo conferma.

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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 6:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Translation Help Reply with quote

Hi I'm back. I found Venero Eugenio Sapienza's Civil Registration but I am having trouble putting it on Image shack. Sad Would someone please help me? Thank you.
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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 6:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Translation Help Reply with quote

Rita..

What do you need help with?

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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 8:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Translation Help Reply with quote

I just can't seem to get the imageshack to work to post the document of Eugenio Sapienza. :/ I'll try it again now. It won't go through. It comes back saying 503 server not available.
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PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 12:15 am    Post subject: Re: Translation Help Reply with quote

Rita,

Email me the document and I'll upload it here for you.

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PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 5:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Translation Help Reply with quote

Here is the document Rita needs translated.

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PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2008 1:31 am    Post subject: Re: Translation Help Reply with quote

The image is very small, however...

Venero Eugenio Sapienza born March 6, 1896 in Belpasso to Giuseppe Sapienza (56?) and Lucia Proietto,

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