Translation Help

BillieDeKid · V.I.P. Joined: Oct 26, 2007 Posts: 1221 Location: Illinois

No Livio. I am the one that made the confusion. I thought Luca said that Agostino was not a Sapienza but he wasn't sure because the quality of the document posted was so poor. So I tried to clean it up and reposted it for him to take a look.

So please don't think you made confusion..........if anyone made confusion it was me Embarassed

Ok Carole..........now I need a hug!!

Luca · Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 6:13 pm Post subject: Re: Translation Help

BillieDeKid wrote:

No Livio. I am the one that made the confusion. I thought Luca said that Agostino was not a Sapienza but he wasn't sure because the quality of the document posted was so poor. So I tried to clean it up and reposted it for him to take a look.

So please don't think you made confusion..........if anyone made confusion it was me Embarassed

Ok Carole..........now I need a hug!!

You aren't in confusion ! I said that. I think Agostino was not a Sapienza (98%), but to be sure (at 100%) I shall have a better image. So don't worry.
I made confusion too:

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I was wrong. Luigi there isn't. I confused Luigi (Aloysius in Latin) whit Alfio (Alphius in Latin). Sorry
Giovanni (Jonny) and Joannes (in Latin) is the same.
Luca

The important is that, now, Rita has more information than 15 days ago!

party

Ciao
Luca

Carole · Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 6:26 pm Post subject: Re: Translation Help

OK - so now everyone's running round saying 'Mea culpa, Mea culpa - Mea massima culpa!'....but at the end of the day you are all doing a GREAT job sorting all this out - so here's a huge hug for you all

I leave the WHAPS to 'other' people... Wink

(that way I get to be Mrs. Nice Guy)

Tiger965 · Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 7:11 pm Post subject: Re: Translation Help

Thanks for the dancing bananas Luca! They look cute.

BillieDeKid · V.I.P. Joined: Oct 26, 2007 Posts: 1221 Location: Illinois

BillieDeKid · V.I.P. Joined: Oct 26, 2007 Posts: 1221 Location: Illinois

Luca and Livio.........Three more in Latin

Baptism of Salvatore Sapienza
Date Baptised – 18??
Father – Giuseppe (Joseph) Sapienza
Mother – Lucia Distefano
God parents – Nicolosi ?
http://img352.imageshack.us/img352/1553/goodsalvatorechurchrecoml3.jpg

Baptism of Joseph (Giuseppe) or Josephina (Giuseppa) Sapienza
Date Baptised – 1893?
Father – Angelo ? Sapienza
Mother - ?
God parents - ?
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/8030/goodmaybeangelosapienzagb7.jpg

Baptism of Barbarino Romeo
Date Baptised – 1873
Father – Rosario Romeo
Mother – Domenica Consoli
God Parents - ? Gratia
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/8671/barbarinoromeofb7.jpg

Tiger965 · Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 12:33 am Post subject: Re: Translation Help

Livio, This film is very hard to read and it really isn't anyone's fault. neclord

I know each and everyone of you is trying their best to help. Thank you. kiss

liviomoreno · Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 4:17 am Post subject: Re: Translation Help

Baptism of Salvatore Sapienza
Date Baptised – 1892, January 6
Date born - 1891, Dec 24
Father – Giuseppe (Joseph) Sapienza
Mother – Lucia Distefano
God mother – Maria Nicolosi
http://img352.imageshack.us/img352/1553/goodsalvatorechurchrecoml3.jpg

Baptism of Josepha (Giuseppa) Sapienza
Date Baptised – 1893, April 18
Date Born - 1893, April 10
Father – Michelangelo Sapienza
Mother - Blagia Sava ???
God mother - Domenica Motta
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/8030/goodmaybeangelosapienzagb7.jpg

Baptism of Barbarino Romeo
Date Baptised – 1863, June 11
Date Born - 1863, June 5
Father – Rosario Romeo
Mother – Domenica Consoli
God mother - Gratia (Grazia) Romeo
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/8671/barbarinoromeofb7.jpg

BillieDeKid · V.I.P. Joined: Oct 26, 2007 Posts: 1221 Location: Illinois

Thank you Livio kiss

Tiger965 · Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 8:46 pm Post subject: Re: Translation Help

I found Eugenio Sapienza! Very Happy

Momma mia! My cousin just told me that I still need to find Angelo,Dominick, and Grazia. Very Happy

. I just don't know of when they were born but he feels they should be on this same film. Very Happy

I don't know how they did it back then but I feel I was just in a whirl wind! ~Rita

BillieDeKid · V.I.P. Joined: Oct 26, 2007 Posts: 1221 Location: Illinois

[quote="Luca"]

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Maria Guardia (if so very, very strange name)
Baptized 1885 Sept 24, born Sept 22 daughter of Lucia Distefano and Giuseppe (Joseph in Latin) Sapienza. Godmother Caterina Nicolaso

Luca and Livio

Is it possible that Maria Guardia could be Maria Grazia? This might account for the "Grazia" - daughter of Giuseppe (Joseph)?

BillieDeKid · V.I.P. Joined: Oct 26, 2007 Posts: 1221 Location: Illinois

Livio and Luca - Another baptismal record

Baptism of ? Euginio Sapienza
Born – 18??
Father – Giuseppe (Joseph)
Mother – Lucia Borcetto ?
God parent – Gratia Sapienza

Below Euginio’s and Joseph’s names (on the left) is a female name I believe it says Lucia Borsatto (mothers name)?
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And thanks again Livio and Luca for all that you're doing kiss

liviomoreno · Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 3:36 am Post subject: Re: Translation Help

Vxxxx Eugenio Sapienza
Date Baptized - 1896, March 25
Born – 1896, March 20
Father – Giuseppe (Joseph)
Mother – Lucia xxxxx ?
God mother – Gratia Sapienza

Below Eugenio’s and Joseph’s names (on the left) there is the mother's name Lucia xxxxxx ?
img177.imageshack.us/i...pedjl7.jpg

Once again, we need a larger picture... please don't crop it before posting.

Carole · Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 4:59 am Post subject: Re: Translation Help

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"...Lucia xxxxx ?"

Looks a bit like Borsitto - there seems to be a 'dot' over the letter before the double 't'...

Luca · Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 6:05 am Post subject: Re: Translation Help

liviomoreno wrote:

Vxxxx Eugenio Sapienza
Date Baptized - 1896, March 25
Born – 1896, March (20) potrebbe essere Sexta (6)
Father – Giuseppe (Joseph)
Mother – Lucia xxxxx ?
God mother – Gratia Sapienza

Below Eugenio’s and Joseph’s names (on the left) there is the mother's name Lucia xxxxxx ?
img177.imageshack.us/i...pedjl7.jpg

Once again, we need a larger picture... please don't crop it before posting.

For Rita. Now that you have almost all the baptismal documents with exact dates, why don't you ask for the civil documents? Perhaps we'll be able to know the true surname of Lucia!
Ciao
Luca