x
Toggle Content Register or Login  -  December 16, 2024, 8:48 pm
Toggle Content User Info

Welcome Anonymous

Nickname
Password

Membership:
Latest: LucilleDZ
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 2016

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 730
Total: 730
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: Home
02: Home
03: Home
04: Community Forums
05: Community Forums
06: Community Forums
07: Community Forums
08: Home
09: Home
10: Community Forums
11: Community Forums
12: Community Forums
13: Home
14: Community Forums
15: Community Forums
16: Community Forums
17: Community Forums
18: Home
19: Community Forums
20: Community Forums
21: Home
22: Home
23: Community Forums
24: Community Forums
25: Home
26: Home
27: Home
28: Community Forums
29: Community Forums
30: Home
31: Community Forums
32: Community Forums
33: Home
34: Community Forums
35: Home
36: Community Forums
37: Community Forums
38: Community Forums
39: Community Forums
40: Community Forums
41: Community Forums
42: Home
43: Community Forums
44: Home
45: Community Forums
46: Community Forums
47: Home
48: Photo Gallery
49: Home
50: Community Forums
51: Home
52: Home
53: Home
54: Community Forums
55: Community Forums
56: Community Forums
57: My Account
58: Home
59: Home
60: Community Forums
61: Community Forums
62: Home
63: Community Forums
64: Community Forums
65: Home
66: Community Forums
67: Community Forums
68: Community Forums
69: Community Forums
70: Home
71: Community Forums
72: Community Forums
73: Community Forums
74: Community Forums
75: Community Forums
76: Community Forums
77: Community Forums
78: Community Forums
79: Community Forums
80: Community Forums
81: Community Forums
82: Community Forums
83: Community Forums
84: Statistics
85: Community Forums
86: Community Forums
87: Home
88: Home
89: Community Forums
90: Community Forums
91: Community Forums
92: Community Forums
93: Community Forums
94: Community Forums
95: Photo Gallery
96: Community Forums
97: Community Forums
98: Community Forums
99: Community Forums
100: Community Forums
101: Community Forums
102: Photo Gallery
103: Community Forums
104: Home
105: Community Forums
106: Home
107: Home
108: Community Forums
109: Community Forums
110: Photo Gallery
111: Photo Gallery
112: Home
113: Community Forums
114: Home
115: Community Forums
116: Community Forums
117: Community Forums
118: Community Forums
119: Community Forums
120: Home
121: Home
122: Home
123: Photo Gallery
124: Community Forums
125: Home
126: Home
127: Photo Gallery
128: Community Forums
129: Community Forums
130: Community Forums
131: Home
132: Home
133: Photo Gallery
134: Community Forums
135: Community Forums
136: Community Forums
137: Photo Gallery
138: Community Forums
139: Community Forums
140: Community Forums
141: Home
142: Home
143: Community Forums
144: Community Forums
145: Community Forums
146: Community Forums
147: Community Forums
148: Community Forums
149: Community Forums
150: Home
151: Photo Gallery
152: Home
153: Community Forums
154: Photo Gallery
155: Community Forums
156: Community Forums
157: My Account
158: Community Forums
159: Photo Gallery
160: Community Forums
161: Community Forums
162: Home
163: Community Forums
164: Community Forums
165: Community Forums
166: Community Forums
167: Home
168: Community Forums
169: Community Forums
170: Community Forums
171: Community Forums
172: Community Forums
173: Community Forums
174: Home
175: Community Forums
176: Community Forums
177: Stories Archive
178: Home
179: Photo Gallery
180: Community Forums
181: Community Forums
182: Community Forums
183: Community Forums
184: Community Forums
185: Community Forums
186: Home
187: Community Forums
188: Community Forums
189: Home
190: Community Forums
191: Community Forums
192: Community Forums
193: Stories Archive
194: Home
195: Community Forums
196: Photo Gallery
197: Photo Gallery
198: Photo Gallery
199: Community Forums
200: Home
201: Home
202: Community Forums
203: Community Forums
204: Community Forums
205: Community Forums
206: Home
207: Community Forums
208: Community Forums
209: Community Forums
210: Home
211: Photo Gallery
212: Home
213: Home
214: Community Forums
215: Community Forums
216: Home
217: Community Forums
218: Community Forums
219: Statistics
220: Home
221: Home
222: Home
223: Home
224: Home
225: Home
226: Home
227: Home
228: Community Forums
229: Community Forums
230: Community Forums
231: My Account
232: Photo Gallery
233: Community Forums
234: Photo Gallery
235: Community Forums
236: Community Forums
237: Community Forums
238: Photo Gallery
239: Community Forums
240: Home
241: Community Forums
242: Community Forums
243: Home
244: Community Forums
245: Home
246: Home
247: Community Forums
248: Community Forums
249: Photo Gallery
250: Community Forums
251: Home
252: Search
253: Community Forums
254: Home
255: Community Forums
256: Community Forums
257: Home
258: Community Forums
259: Community Forums
260: Community Forums
261: Photo Gallery
262: Community Forums
263: Community Forums
264: Community Forums
265: Community Forums
266: Community Forums
267: Home
268: Community Forums
269: Home
270: Community Forums
271: Home
272: Home
273: Community Forums
274: Community Forums
275: Home
276: Photo Gallery
277: Home
278: Community Forums
279: Community Forums
280: Community Forums
281: Photo Gallery
282: Community Forums
283: Community Forums
284: Home
285: Community Forums
286: Community Forums
287: Community Forums
288: Community Forums
289: Community Forums
290: Home
291: Home
292: Home
293: Community Forums
294: Home
295: Community Forums
296: Community Forums
297: Community Forums
298: Photo Gallery
299: Community Forums
300: Community Forums
301: Statistics
302: Community Forums
303: Community Forums
304: Community Forums
305: Community Forums
306: Community Forums
307: Community Forums
308: Home
309: Photo Gallery
310: Home
311: Community Forums
312: Home
313: Home
314: Community Forums
315: Home
316: Home
317: Community Forums
318: Home
319: Community Forums
320: Community Forums
321: Photo Gallery
322: Community Forums
323: Home
324: Community Forums
325: Photo Gallery
326: Home
327: Community Forums
328: Community Forums
329: Community Forums
330: Home
331: Community Forums
332: Community Forums
333: Home
334: Community Forums
335: Community Forums
336: Home
337: Community Forums
338: Photo Gallery
339: Community Forums
340: Community Forums
341: Community Forums
342: Home
343: Community Forums
344: Community Forums
345: Community Forums
346: Community Forums
347: Community Forums
348: Community Forums
349: Community Forums
350: Community Forums
351: Photo Gallery
352: Community Forums
353: Home
354: Home
355: Community Forums
356: Community Forums
357: Home
358: Community Forums
359: Community Forums
360: Home
361: Community Forums
362: Community Forums
363: Community Forums
364: Community Forums
365: Community Forums
366: Photo Gallery
367: Community Forums
368: Community Forums
369: Community Forums
370: Home
371: Community Forums
372: Community Forums
373: Community Forums
374: Photo Gallery
375: Community Forums
376: Community Forums
377: Community Forums
378: Home
379: Community Forums
380: Community Forums
381: Home
382: Stories Archive
383: Photo Gallery
384: Photo Gallery
385: Home
386: Home
387: Community Forums
388: Community Forums
389: Home
390: Home
391: Community Forums
392: Photo Gallery
393: Community Forums
394: Community Forums
395: Community Forums
396: Community Forums
397: Photo Gallery
398: Home
399: Community Forums
400: Community Forums
401: Community Forums
402: Topics
403: Photo Gallery
404: Community Forums
405: Community Forums
406: Community Forums
407: Home
408: Community Forums
409: Community Forums
410: Community Forums
411: Home
412: Community Forums
413: Community Forums
414: Community Forums
415: Community Forums
416: Community Forums
417: Home
418: Community Forums
419: Community Forums
420: Photo Gallery
421: Home
422: Home
423: Community Forums
424: Community Forums
425: Community Forums
426: Home
427: Home
428: Community Forums
429: Photo Gallery
430: Community Forums
431: Home
432: Home
433: Photo Gallery
434: Photo Gallery
435: My Account
436: Home
437: Community Forums
438: Community Forums
439: Community Forums
440: Community Forums
441: Community Forums
442: Community Forums
443: Home
444: Community Forums
445: Community Forums
446: Home
447: Community Forums
448: Home
449: Home
450: Community Forums
451: Community Forums
452: Home
453: Community Forums
454: Home
455: Photo Gallery
456: Photo Gallery
457: Photo Gallery
458: Home
459: Community Forums
460: Photo Gallery
461: Community Forums
462: Community Forums
463: Photo Gallery
464: Community Forums
465: Home
466: Community Forums
467: Community Forums
468: Home
469: Home
470: Community Forums
471: Community Forums
472: Community Forums
473: Community Forums
474: Photo Gallery
475: Home
476: Home
477: Community Forums
478: Community Forums
479: Community Forums
480: Community Forums
481: Home
482: Community Forums
483: Community Forums
484: Home
485: Community Forums
486: Home
487: Community Forums
488: Community Forums
489: Home
490: Home
491: Photo Gallery
492: Community Forums
493: Community Forums
494: Community Forums
495: Community Forums
496: Community Forums
497: Community Forums
498: Community Forums
499: Community Forums
500: Community Forums
501: Home
502: Community Forums
503: Community Forums
504: Home
505: Photo Gallery
506: Home
507: Community Forums
508: Community Forums
509: Community Forums
510: Community Forums
511: Community Forums
512: Community Forums
513: Community Forums
514: Community Forums
515: Community Forums
516: Community Forums
517: Community Forums
518: Community Forums
519: Home
520: Home
521: Community Forums
522: Home
523: Home
524: Home
525: Community Forums
526: Home
527: Community Forums
528: Home
529: Community Forums
530: Community Forums
531: Community Forums
532: Community Forums
533: Photo Gallery
534: Home
535: Home
536: Community Forums
537: Community Forums
538: Photo Gallery
539: Community Forums
540: Home
541: Community Forums
542: Home
543: Community Forums
544: Community Forums
545: Community Forums
546: Home
547: Home
548: Community Forums
549: Community Forums
550: Community Forums
551: Community Forums
552: Home
553: Photo Gallery
554: Photo Gallery
555: Home
556: Home
557: Community Forums
558: Photo Gallery
559: Community Forums
560: Community Forums
561: Community Forums
562: Community Forums
563: Home
564: Community Forums
565: Photo Gallery
566: Community Forums
567: Home
568: Home
569: Home
570: Photo Gallery
571: Home
572: Home
573: Photo Gallery
574: Home
575: Search
576: Community Forums
577: Community Forums
578: Community Forums
579: Home
580: Community Forums
581: Community Forums
582: Home
583: Photo Gallery
584: Home
585: Community Forums
586: Community Forums
587: Community Forums
588: Community Forums
589: Community Forums
590: Community Forums
591: Community Forums
592: Photo Gallery
593: Community Forums
594: Photo Gallery
595: Community Forums
596: Photo Gallery
597: Photo Gallery
598: Community Forums
599: Photo Gallery
600: Community Forums
601: Community Forums
602: Community Forums
603: Home
604: Community Forums
605: Community Forums
606: Photo Gallery
607: Community Forums
608: Home
609: Community Forums
610: Community Forums
611: Home
612: Community Forums
613: Community Forums
614: Photo Gallery
615: Home
616: Home
617: Community Forums
618: Community Forums
619: Home
620: Community Forums
621: Community Forums
622: Community Forums
623: Community Forums
624: Photo Gallery
625: Home
626: Community Forums
627: Community Forums
628: Community Forums
629: Home
630: Community Forums
631: Community Forums
632: Community Forums
633: Home
634: Community Forums
635: Home
636: Community Forums
637: Photo Gallery
638: Community Forums
639: Community Forums
640: Community Forums
641: Stories Archive
642: Home
643: Home
644: Home
645: Community Forums
646: Community Forums
647: Community Forums
648: Home
649: Community Forums
650: Community Forums
651: Community Forums
652: Photo Gallery
653: Photo Gallery
654: Community Forums
655: Home
656: Community Forums
657: Community Forums
658: Home
659: Home
660: Community Forums
661: Community Forums
662: Photo Gallery
663: Home
664: Community Forums
665: Community Forums
666: Photo Gallery
667: Community Forums
668: Home
669: Community Forums
670: Community Forums
671: Community Forums
672: Photo Gallery
673: Community Forums
674: Community Forums
675: Community Forums
676: Community Forums
677: Community Forums
678: Photo Gallery
679: Community Forums
680: Community Forums
681: Community Forums
682: Community Forums
683: Community Forums
684: Home
685: Home
686: Community Forums
687: Community Forums
688: Community Forums
689: Photo Gallery
690: Community Forums
691: Community Forums
692: Community Forums
693: My Account
694: Community Forums
695: Photo Gallery
696: Community Forums
697: Community Forums
698: Home
699: Community Forums
700: Community Forums
701: Community Forums
702: Community Forums
703: Community Forums
704: Community Forums
705: Community Forums
706: Community Forums
707: Home
708: Community Forums
709: Home
710: Home
711: Community Forums
712: My Account
713: Community Forums
714: Photo Gallery
715: Home
716: Community Forums
717: Community Forums
718: My Account
719: Home
720: Community Forums
721: Community Forums
722: Community Forums
723: Photo Gallery
724: Community Forums
725: Home
726: Community Forums
727: Community Forums
728: Home
729: Home
730: Community Forums

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
Toggle Content Main Menu
Toggle Content Last Posts
Last 10 Forum Messages

translation help needed please
Last post by yesindd in Translations on Jul 15, 2024 at 20:59:53

bocca
Last post by tennino in General Discussion Groups on Jan 16, 2021 at 15:56:41

Towns in Frosinone that were part of former Vatican States a
Last post by Italysearcher in Central Italy on Feb 19, 2019 at 08:15:58

Dual Citizenship
Last post by Curci-Ghio in General Discussion Groups on Nov 18, 2018 at 14:30:54

Please Help Translate Letter
Last post by nuccia in Translations on Oct 20, 2018 at 06:18:43

Family in Cittanova
Last post by russojoseph1 in Translations on Oct 14, 2018 at 12:28:20

DNA Testing
Last post by nuccia in General Discussion Groups on Sep 29, 2018 at 10:39:30

Trento -Atto di Nascita - Frazione di Poia, Comune di Comano
Last post by exevans in Northern Italy on Mar 28, 2018 at 00:45:37

Translating written postcard
Last post by mekanic in Translations on Jan 18, 2018 at 12:58:50

Translating written postcard
Last post by mekanic in Translations on Jan 18, 2018 at 12:53:38

Toggle Content Help Support this Site
Please support GentediMareGenealogy
Help us by supporting the future development of this site, or simply to say thank you.
Toggle Content EStore
Community Forums › They Came in Boats › Where do I begin? › Marriage By Proxy Information Please

     Forum FAQ   Search   Log in to check your private messages   Login  
Marriage By Proxy Information Please
For help with starting your genealogy research.

Post new topic   Reply to topic    Forum Index Where do I begin? Printer Friendly Page

View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
4deb
New Member
New Member


Joined: Mar 21, 2011
Posts: 11
Location: Niagara Falls, Ontario, Canada

PostPosted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 9:27 am    Post subject: Marriage By Proxy Information Please Reply with quote

I have just found information about Carmella Pascuzzi (Futino) arriving in New York on Feb. 7 1898 already married (passage paid by father-in-law). But I believe her husband Angelo Pascuzzi was in the US from 1893 until she came and they eventually came to Niagara Falls Ontario in 1907.

I know marriages by proxy often took place and would like extra information - articles I could read about this.

I have found a later Roman Catholic marriage between the two recorded in Niagara Falls Ontario Canada taking place in 1907. I have also learned that two marriages sometimes took place- one by proxy and another wedding with both present in the same church which took place later on.
I have not found this marriage in Italy before the passage on the Archivio Di Stato Di Cosenza. Any ideas where to look for this information?
Researching the Poane (Gagliano) Futino (Bianchi) Pascuzzi (Pedivigliano)
Thanks for your help.
Back to top
View user's profile
nuccia
Admin
Admin


Joined: Jul 09, 2007
Posts: 4375
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada

PostPosted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 1:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Marriage By Proxy Information Please Reply with quote

My parents were married by proxy in Cosenza (actually in Malito). My dad was from Reggio and lived in Toronto, my mother still in Italy. My uncle (Dad's brother went to the Comune and married my mother one December. She then came to Canada where my father met her in Halifax in mid June. On Jul 1 my parents were married in the RC Church in Toronto.

You can read about it here:
nucciasthoughts.blogsp...y-end.html
and here:
nucciasthoughts.blogsp...d-for.html

To get a copy of the marriage act which took place in Italy you will have to write to the Comune where they married (usually in the brides town). Then you should get a copy of the marriage from the Church where they married. They probably have archived the marriage records in a central location by now in New York but if you can locate the Church then will direct you to the correct address.

Does this help at all?

_________________
nuccia
Italian Surname Database

Calabria Exchange
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website
4deb
New Member
New Member


Joined: Mar 21, 2011
Posts: 11
Location: Niagara Falls, Ontario, Canada

PostPosted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 2:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Marriage By Proxy Information Please Reply with quote

Nuccia,
You have been so helpful in your replies as I start this family journey back through time. You have helped me understand the marriage by proxy in a very person and meaningful way.
I have just found the ship's manifest which states that "father-in-law" paid for Carmella's frip to New York just about one year after the Husband Angelo Pascuzzi received his US naturalization card. Carmella Pascuzzi and Angelo had three children near the Albany NY area before they came to Niagara Falls ON to have the other 9 children who all lived.
I will now start to explore how they "got together" with an ocean between them. Their villages (Bianchi-Pedivigliano) are about 20 miles apart. But he was here for about five years before his bride came "to meet him".
This site adds the personal touch to documents and dates as we explore the past.
Thanks again,
Bill in Niagara Falls Ontario
Back to top
View user's profile
nuccia
Admin
Admin


Joined: Jul 09, 2007
Posts: 4375
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada

PostPosted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 4:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Marriage By Proxy Information Please Reply with quote

Jim its been my pleasure. Now I have a question for you - Did at anytime Angelo used an Americanized version of his name ? I found this birth record which might help since it shows a birth to a couple in 1907.


Ontario, Canada Births, 1869-1911
about Jerome Parco Pasco
Name: Jerome Parco Pasco
Date of Birth: 14 Mar 1907
Gender: Male
Birth County: Welland
Father's Name: Angelo Pasco
Mother's Name: Carmella Futino
Archives of Ontario Microfilm: MS933_49


_________________
nuccia
Italian Surname Database

Calabria Exchange
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website
nuccia
Admin
Admin


Joined: Jul 09, 2007
Posts: 4375
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada

PostPosted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 4:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Marriage By Proxy Information Please Reply with quote

And here is their marriage record - which means the Church records should be available in a Church in Canada! It states the parents names as well which is a big help.


Ontario, Canada Marriages, 1801-1926
about Angelo Pascuzzo
Name: Angelo Pascuzzo
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874
Father Name: Francesco Pascuzzo
Mother Name: Nunciato Carriaciala
Spouse Name: Carnelo Fatima
Spouse's Age: 23
Spouse Father Name: Antonio Fatima
Spouse Mother Name: Teresa Mirabella
Marriage Date: 20 Oct 1907
Marriage Location: Welland
Marriage County: Welland
Archives of Ontario Microfilm: MS932_144


_________________
nuccia
Italian Surname Database

Calabria Exchange
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website
4deb
New Member
New Member


Joined: Mar 21, 2011
Posts: 11
Location: Niagara Falls, Ontario, Canada

PostPosted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 5:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Marriage By Proxy Information Please Reply with quote

Yes both documents refer to my relatives going by the name Pasco not Pascuzzi. This just complicates things a little further like their first son beng named son Frank or Francesco. I have this marriage information but the 1907 date "complicates" things since Frank born in 1900, Louis born in 1901 and Angelo born in 1903 preceed this second marriage. I believe these three were born in the Albany New York area. I have been in contact with the Niagara Falls church referred to as "Falls View" in the document. they are looking into it. The 1911 Canadian Census has the Pasco family living at 38 Peer Street (Welland district #132 sub district Niagara Falls Sub-district # 47).
Thanks for the detective work.

_________________
Bill
Researching the families of Paone (Gagliano), Futino (Bianchi) and Pascuzzi (Bianchi-Pedivigliano)
Back to top
View user's profile
  Page 1 of 1All times are GMT - 4 Hours

Post new topic   Reply to topic    Forum Index Where do I begin? Printer Friendly Page

  
 
Jump to:  



You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum



Hosted By Site5.com
The logos and trademarks used on this site are the property of Gente di Mare Genealogy.
We are not responsible for comments posted by our users, as they are the opinions of the poster.
Interactive software released under GNU GPL, Code Credits, Privacy Policy
TCD_ItalianGene © Gente di Mare Genealogy