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PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 9:49 pm    Post subject: Declarations and Petitions from PA Reply with quote

Hope someone can help me with a record I just found on Ancestry for my husbands Great Grandfather, Karl Kabbel. Found an index for a declaration of intention and petition, US District & Circuit Courts for Western District of PA, date June 30, 1903. Karl aka Carl Kabbel/Kebbel was born 3/7/1879, we have him born in Koenigsburg Germany. This index is showing Russia. Karl had lived in Brooklyn, NY, Hackensack and New Milford, NJ. He also lived in PA but the town and county is unknown to us. Some of his children were born in PA but we have no BC's. I have been checking the PA Archive sites and NARA, do not know where to go for a copy of these documents. Only have copies of his WWI and II registration cards and some ship manifests showing his brothers coming to the USA to his home in Brooklyn, NY. His father's name was also Karl, brothers are Albert Kebbel, Wilholm Kebbel and possible sister Emma Kebbel. Anyone familiar with PA archives?

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 10:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Declarations and Petitions from PA Reply with quote

I got this from Footnote. Is this what you wanted?
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 10:16 pm    Post subject: Re: Declarations and Petitions from PA Reply with quote

OMG, Thank you Cathy! Thats the petition listed on Ancestry. Do U have any Idea what the town is? Need to get to the County records but need a town.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 10:20 pm    Post subject: Re: Declarations and Petitions from PA Reply with quote

Here is the index you found on Ancestry. My first post had the actual petition.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 10:25 pm    Post subject: Re: Declarations and Petitions from PA Reply with quote

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OMG, Thank you Cathy! Thats the petition listed on Ancestry. Do U have any Idea what the town is? Need to get to the County records but need a town.
I don't see a town on the index or the actual petition. - sorry. Both list his home country as Russia though. Did you find a ship manifest for him?

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 10:29 pm    Post subject: Re: Declarations and Petitions from PA Reply with quote

Thank you soooo much. Finding this record just made my day! now need to make it smaller and decipher the town name!

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 10:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Declarations and Petitions from PA Reply with quote

Do you know if Doris is a relation?
Name: Doris Kabbel
Age: 27
Birth Date: abt 1910
Issue Date: 23 Feb 1937
State: New York
Locality, Court: Eastern District of New York, District Court
Title: Index to Naturalization Petitions of the United States District Court for the Eastern District of New York, 1865-1957
Description: Joris, Robert to Kaouris, Helen
Series: M1164
I did a quick search on Ancestry - it appears there are 2 different men. Carl Kabbel born in Germany and Karl Kabbel born in Russia. Do you know which one is correct?

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 10:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Declarations and Petitions from PA Reply with quote

No, not for Karl Kabbel, also spelled Kebbel, Kabble or Keabbel. Found ship manifests for his brothers Albert Kebbel, Wilholm Kebbel, Auguste Kebbel and a possible sister Emma Kebbel.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 10:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Declarations and Petitions from PA Reply with quote

I cannot find Karl either but the petition lists his date of landing (on US soil) so this is a great clue. April 26, 1895 is the date he entered the U.S. so Steve Morse's site can help here...I'll look over there now.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 10:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Declarations and Petitions from PA Reply with quote

We were told that Karl Kabbel was from Germany, but many of the relatives are comming from Prussia, possible a port that allowed exit for them. I do not known of a Doris Kabbel. Family is as follows:
Karl Kebbel and wife Emilia Krafhandt (sometimes spelled as Krapat)
Son: Albert Kebbel born 11/10/1894 Sualsky Russia
Wife: Augusta Winnat brn 4/22/1890 Mciszki Russia
Son: Karl Kabbel born March 1879 East Prussia
Wife: Frieda Harnisch birth date unknown
Children of son Karl Kabbel
Edward C. Kabbel born 4/17/1901 Brooklyn NY
Hugo Kabbel 8/18/1902 Wilmerding PA
(JUST FIGURED OUT THE TOWN NAME LOL)
Selma Kabbel born 8/4/1904 Passaic NJ
Emma Freida Kaebbel born 6/27/1906 NJ
Minerva E. Kabbel born 7/17/1908
Bertha Jean Kaebbel born 11/14/1911 NY
Otto H. Kabbel born 3/3/1914

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 10:53 pm    Post subject: Re: Declarations and Petitions from PA Reply with quote

Using Steve Morse's gold form was no help. Crying or Very sad Sorry. I was hoping to find him there. It is possible that this is a different Karl (from Russia) or perhaps he lived in a town that was near the border. I'll keep looking.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 11:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Declarations and Petitions from PA Reply with quote

No, this Petition is for our great grandfather Karl Kabbel, as his date of birth is right and the town in PA is the same town where our grandfather Hugo Kabbel was born. There are two Karl Kabbels. As Karl Jr was born in Prussia and his brother Albert Kebbel was born in Russia, one record may be for the father Karl and one for the son Karl, just not sure who would have come from German and who is from Russia. Need to find the records and check the ages. I do believe that these records are of our relatives. Thank you for assisting me, you have been a great help. kiss

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 11:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Declarations and Petitions from PA Reply with quote

Great! I'm glad I could help. I'm sorry I could not find his ship manifest. Perhaps his death record lists his place of birth. Do you know what state he died in?

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 7:47 am    Post subject: Re: Declarations and Petitions from PA Reply with quote

Hi Cathy, still looking for is death records and burial. Some of his children died and are buried in NJ and FL, but our grandfather Hugo, after living in NJ for many years moved back to PA. He died and was buried in Fayetteville PA, so I am going to direct my search in PA.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 1:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Declarations and Petitions from PA Reply with quote

Kathy: Would you please check Footnote to see if they have a copy of the Declaration of Intention or any other documents for Karl Kabbel. It appears that although Karl and his brother Albert were German, they both seem to have resided in and arrived from Russia. Thanks for all your help, Carol

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