x
Toggle Content Register or Login  -  April 3, 2025, 5:46 am
Toggle Content User Info

Welcome Anonymous

Nickname
Password

Membership:
Latest: LucilleDZ
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 2016

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 245
Total: 245
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: Statistics
02: Statistics
03: Statistics
04: Home
05: Statistics
06: Statistics
07: Statistics
08: Statistics
09: Statistics
10: Statistics
11: Statistics
12: Statistics
13: Statistics
14: Statistics
15: Statistics
16: Statistics
17: Statistics
18: Statistics
19: Statistics
20: Statistics
21: Statistics
22: Statistics
23: Statistics
24: Statistics
25: Statistics
26: Statistics
27: Home
28: Statistics
29: Statistics
30: Statistics
31: Statistics
32: Statistics
33: Statistics
34: Statistics
35: Statistics
36: Statistics
37: Home
38: Statistics
39: Statistics
40: Community Forums
41: Statistics
42: Statistics
43: Statistics
44: Community Forums
45: Statistics
46: Statistics
47: Community Forums
48: Statistics
49: Statistics
50: Statistics
51: Statistics
52: Statistics
53: Statistics
54: Statistics
55: Statistics
56: Statistics
57: Statistics
58: Statistics
59: Statistics
60: Statistics
61: Statistics
62: Statistics
63: Statistics
64: Statistics
65: Statistics
66: Statistics
67: Statistics
68: Statistics
69: Statistics
70: Statistics
71: Community Forums
72: Statistics
73: Statistics
74: Statistics
75: Statistics
76: Statistics
77: Home
78: Statistics
79: Statistics
80: Statistics
81: Statistics
82: Statistics
83: Statistics
84: Statistics
85: Home
86: Statistics
87: Statistics
88: Statistics
89: Statistics
90: Statistics
91: Statistics
92: Statistics
93: Statistics
94: Statistics
95: Statistics
96: Statistics
97: Statistics
98: Statistics
99: Statistics
100: Statistics
101: Community Forums
102: Statistics
103: Statistics
104: Statistics
105: Statistics
106: Statistics
107: Statistics
108: Statistics
109: Statistics
110: Statistics
111: Home
112: Statistics
113: Statistics
114: Statistics
115: Statistics
116: Home
117: Statistics
118: Statistics
119: Statistics
120: Statistics
121: Statistics
122: Statistics
123: Statistics
124: Statistics
125: Statistics
126: Statistics
127: Statistics
128: Statistics
129: Statistics
130: Photo Gallery
131: Statistics
132: Home
133: Statistics
134: Statistics
135: Statistics
136: Statistics
137: Statistics
138: Statistics
139: Statistics
140: Statistics
141: Statistics
142: Statistics
143: Statistics
144: Statistics
145: Statistics
146: Community Forums
147: Statistics
148: Statistics
149: Statistics
150: Statistics
151: Statistics
152: Statistics
153: Statistics
154: Statistics
155: Statistics
156: Statistics
157: Statistics
158: Statistics
159: Statistics
160: Statistics
161: Statistics
162: Statistics
163: Statistics
164: Home
165: Statistics
166: Community Forums
167: Community Forums
168: Statistics
169: Statistics
170: Home
171: Statistics
172: Statistics
173: Statistics
174: Statistics
175: Statistics
176: Statistics
177: Statistics
178: Statistics
179: Statistics
180: Statistics
181: Statistics
182: Statistics
183: Statistics
184: Statistics
185: Statistics
186: Statistics
187: Statistics
188: Statistics
189: Statistics
190: Home
191: Statistics
192: Statistics
193: Home
194: Statistics
195: Statistics
196: Statistics
197: Statistics
198: Statistics
199: Statistics
200: Statistics
201: Statistics
202: Statistics
203: Community Forums
204: Statistics
205: Statistics
206: Statistics
207: Statistics
208: Statistics
209: Statistics
210: Statistics
211: Statistics
212: Statistics
213: Statistics
214: Statistics
215: Statistics
216: Statistics
217: Statistics
218: Statistics
219: Community Forums
220: Statistics
221: Statistics
222: Statistics
223: Statistics
224: Community Forums
225: Statistics
226: Community Forums
227: Statistics
228: Statistics
229: Statistics
230: Statistics
231: Statistics
232: My Private Messages
233: Statistics
234: Statistics
235: Statistics
236: Statistics
237: Statistics
238: Community Forums
239: Statistics
240: Statistics
241: Statistics
242: Statistics
243: Statistics
244: Statistics
245: Community Forums

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
Toggle Content Main Menu
Toggle Content Last Posts
Last 10 Forum Messages

translation help needed please
Last post by yesindd in Translations on Jul 15, 2024 at 20:59:53

bocca
Last post by tennino in General Discussion Groups on Jan 16, 2021 at 16:56:41

Towns in Frosinone that were part of former Vatican States a
Last post by Italysearcher in Central Italy on Feb 19, 2019 at 09:15:58

Dual Citizenship
Last post by Curci-Ghio in General Discussion Groups on Nov 18, 2018 at 15:30:54

Please Help Translate Letter
Last post by nuccia in Translations on Oct 20, 2018 at 06:18:43

Family in Cittanova
Last post by russojoseph1 in Translations on Oct 14, 2018 at 12:28:20

DNA Testing
Last post by nuccia in General Discussion Groups on Sep 29, 2018 at 10:39:30

Trento -Atto di Nascita - Frazione di Poia, Comune di Comano
Last post by exevans in Northern Italy on Mar 28, 2018 at 00:45:37

Translating written postcard
Last post by mekanic in Translations on Jan 18, 2018 at 13:58:50

Translating written postcard
Last post by mekanic in Translations on Jan 18, 2018 at 13:53:38

Toggle Content Help Support this Site
Please support GentediMareGenealogy
Help us by supporting the future development of this site, or simply to say thank you.
Toggle Content EStore
Community Forums › How Can I locate my Family in Italy › Northern Italy › Matteri from Lake Como

     Forum FAQ   Search   Log in to check your private messages   Login  
Matteri from Lake Como

Go to page 1, 2  Next

Post new topic   Reply to topic    Forum Index Northern Italy Printer Friendly Page

View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Jackie
New Member
New Member


Joined: Sep 06, 2008
Posts: 9
Location: Annapolis, Maryland

PostPosted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 7:58 pm    Post subject: Matteri from Lake Como Reply with quote

I am searching for information on my great-great-grandfather, John Joseph Mattare, who was born in Lombardia on January 6, 1836 (he told his children that he came from Lake Como). He arrived in the U.S. in 1861, where he was a woodworker and also made violins, and for a short period a few years after his arrival, a confectioner. While his American name was "Mattare," in the church records for the baptisms and marriages of his children, John's last name and that of his children was recorded as "Matteri." I have found that the Matteri name is common in some of the areas around Lake Como (but not elsewhere in Italy), and that the Mattare name does not exist in Italy. I suspect that his name in Italy was "Giovanni Giuseppe Matteri" but that is only speculation. John's death certificate does not list his birthplace, and I have not been successful in finding him in the passenger lists, or in the U.S. immigration and naturalization records, so I have not found any evidence of the place in Italy in which he was born. Any ideas on how I can locate his records and birthplace in Italy is appreciated! Thanks.
Back to top
View user's profile
nuccia
Admin
Admin


Joined: Jul 09, 2007
Posts: 4375
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada

PostPosted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 10:29 pm    Post subject: Re: Matteri from Lake Como Reply with quote

Jackie,

Could this information help?


Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s
about Giovanni Matteri
Name: Giovanni Matteri
Year: 1863
Place: America
Source Publication Code: 8123.20
Primary Immigrant: Matteri, Giovanni
Annotation: Date and port of arrival. Extracted from microfilms located in the State Archives of Swiss cantons Aargau and Basel, passport lists of Swiss canton Solothurn, and the personal records of a private researcher. Date and place of birth and other genealogical
Source Bibliography: SCHRADER-MUGGENTHALER, C. The Swiss Emigration Book, Vol. 1. Apollo, PA: Closson Press, 1993. 216p.
Page: 82

_________________
nuccia
Italian Surname Database

Calabria Exchange
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website
Jackie
New Member
New Member


Joined: Sep 06, 2008
Posts: 9
Location: Annapolis, Maryland

PostPosted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 11:06 am    Post subject: Re: Matteri from Lake Como Reply with quote

Thank you. I had previously found that entry on the internet, and I am looking for a copy of the book so I can check that passage. U.S. Census records indicate that John Mattare came to the U.S. in 1861 and then married there in 1863, but his first child was born in December 1866, so it is possible that John Mattare did not come to the U.S. until 1863. Until I can see the entry in The Swiss Immigration Book, I was hoping to find leads as to where I could begin my search in Italy -- probably in Dongo, Gravedona or the villages around it, as that is where the concentration of people with the name Matteri live at Lake Como today.
Back to top
View user's profile
Carole
Admin
Admin


Joined: Jul 10, 2007
Posts: 1662
Location: Valtellina - Near Lake Como

PostPosted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 11:43 am    Post subject: Re: Matteri from Lake Como Reply with quote

I live just a few miles from Dongo and Gravedona and if I can be of any help just let me know... I was in Gravedona on Wednesday, I go there quite often - it is a wonderful place.

If you have any other details about the concentration of families with the name you're researching just let me know. I could easily visit/phone the comunes in those towns if I have something to go on.
Thought you might like to see two photos I took in Gravedona....

Thie second looking across the lake from Piona Abbey with Gravedona on the opposite bank.

The first sitting in the sun and taking an aperitivo and looking the opposite way towards Piona...

_________________

Researching: EDMED, SAVILL, TYSON, NEWCOMBE, STAPLETON, GUNTER, STAPLES
If you think education is expensive -try ignorance!

>Expats in Italy<
Come and join 'Dork and Friends'! >New Blog<
Back to top
View user's profile
Jackie
New Member
New Member


Joined: Sep 06, 2008
Posts: 9
Location: Annapolis, Maryland

PostPosted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 2:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Matteri from Lake Como Reply with quote

Thanks, and what nice photos! Before researching my family history, I traveled around Lake Como years ago (and lived in Ferrara for 6 months), and your photos took me right back there!

All of the information I have on John Joseph Mattare (Giovanni Giuseppe Matteri?) is contained in my previous posts. The only additional information that might be helpful is that he was (rather obviously) Catholic. In the U.S., he married an Irish Catholic immigrant, and they lived in Baltimore, Maryland where they had 6 children. Their 5 sons joined their father in his woodworking business, and after his death several continued as woodworkers, and also made violins.

The information I have about the location and concentration of the Matteri name in Italy today comes from the website: italia.indettaglio.it/...ardia.html

The list of towns and their respective provinces, and numbers of people there with the name Matteri, given by the website is:

91.76 Dongo Como
18.96 Garzeno Como
9.28 Gravedona Como
5.22 Vigevano Pavia
5.10 Villa Guardia Como
4.98 Consiglio di Rumo Como
4.82 Gera Lario Como
4.60 Germasino Como
2.86 Dubino Sondrio
2.78 Ronago Como
2.76 Gironico Como
2.73 Appiano Gentile Como
2.71 Uggiate-Trevano Como
2.68 Cavallasca Como
2.66 Faloppio Como
2.66 Stazzona Como
2.58 Lurate Caccivio Como
2.58 Ponteranica Bergamo
2.55 Erba Como
2.55 Paderno d`Adda Lecco
2.54 Lenno Como
2.50 Drezzo Como
2.40 Como Como
2.37 Tremezzo Como
2.35 Domaso Como
2.29 Milano Milano

As you can see, the most are located in Dongo and Garzeno above, followed by Gravedona, and then a few elsewhere. I would think that in the 1860's, the Matteri's were even more concentrated in one area (Dongo?) than they are today? So I imagine that the Dongo commune and churches would be the logical place to start.

Any help you can provide locally or ideas on who I might contact is welcome!
Back to top
View user's profile
Carole
Admin
Admin


Joined: Jul 10, 2007
Posts: 1662
Location: Valtellina - Near Lake Como

PostPosted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 4:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Matteri from Lake Como Reply with quote

Hi Jackie
A quick check reveals that there is still ONE carpenter named Matteri living and working in Dongo....

Matteri Laboratorio Falegnameria Mobili (Furniture makers)
5, VIA SAN LORENZO
22014 Dongo (CO)
tel: 0344 81109
Categoria: falegnami = carpentry

Here are the other listings in the Phone Book and Yellow Pages just for that small area around Dongo, Gravedona and Domaso... which does include several of the other villages on your list like Consiglio di Rumo and Gera Lario.

Pagine Bianche:
>Dongo<

>Domaso<

>Gravedona<

Pagine Gialle:
>Dongo<

>Domaso/Dongo area<

I will make a few calls/investigations over the next few days and see where will be the best place to start. But the comunes will, without doubt be a good starting point.

_________________

Researching: EDMED, SAVILL, TYSON, NEWCOMBE, STAPLETON, GUNTER, STAPLES
If you think education is expensive -try ignorance!

>Expats in Italy<
Come and join 'Dork and Friends'! >New Blog<
Back to top
View user's profile
Jackie
New Member
New Member


Joined: Sep 06, 2008
Posts: 9
Location: Annapolis, Maryland

PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 9:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Matteri from Lake Como Reply with quote

Thank you Carole. I have made some progress on locating a copy of The Swiss Emigration Book by C. Schrader-Muggethaler. While I have not yet seen the book and passage in which I am interested, I am told that it "includes the following for Giovanni Matteri: birth year, 1843; birthplace, Garazero Como Italy, emigration year, 1863; source of the information, Staatsarchiv des Kanton Aargau, CH 5001 Aarau". I suspect that this quote contains a couple of typing or transcription errors: "Garazero" is probably "Garzeno" and "Aarau" is probably "Aargau." I will let you know what I find as soo as I can see the book and passage myself, but it appears as if this Giovanni Matteri (I don't know whether this one was my g-g-grandfather) was born in Garzeno, the village above Dongo, in 1843 (the information I have on my g-g-grandfather is that he was born in 1836, but that may not be accurate). The 1861 Census records 1,654 inhabitants in Garzeno, and the 2001 Census records 1,029 inhabitants in Garzeno, Approximately 18 garzenesi have the name Matteri today. Just wanted you to have all the information I do. Thanks so much for your help!
Back to top
View user's profile
Carole
Admin
Admin


Joined: Jul 10, 2007
Posts: 1662
Location: Valtellina - Near Lake Como

PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 1:48 am    Post subject: Re: Matteri from Lake Como Reply with quote

Aarau could quite well be right - it is the capital of the Canton of Argau.
>AARAU>

This is only about 170 miles from Garzeno, but 'as the crow flies' only about half that.

_________________

Researching: EDMED, SAVILL, TYSON, NEWCOMBE, STAPLETON, GUNTER, STAPLES
If you think education is expensive -try ignorance!

>Expats in Italy<
Come and join 'Dork and Friends'! >New Blog<
Back to top
View user's profile
Jackie
New Member
New Member


Joined: Sep 06, 2008
Posts: 9
Location: Annapolis, Maryland

PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 10:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Matteri from Lake Como Reply with quote

Hi Carole - I finally was able to get access to a copy of The Swiss Emigration Book to look at the information it contains about the "Giovanni Matteri." Unfortunately, the book contains nothing more than the information as outlined in my last post on 9/9/08. I appreciate any advice you can give me about where would be the best place/person to which or whom I should write to explore whether the "Giovanni Matteri: birth year, 1843; birthplace, 'Garazero' Como Italy, emigration year, 1863" in The Swiss Emigration Book is my great-great-grandfather John Mattare (Giovanni Matteri) who, according to U.S. Census records, was born around 1836 in Lombardy, Italy and immigrated to the U.S. in 1861 and records suggest he lived in Baltimore, Maryland from at least 1863 until his death in 1915. Do you recommend that I contact someone in Garzeno, and if so, at the church for their records, at the commune, or one or more of the Matteri's living in Garzeno today? Thanks for you help!
Back to top
View user's profile
ricbru
Researcher
Researcher


Joined: Jul 10, 2007
Posts: 427
Location: TRENTO - ITALIA

PostPosted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 6:34 pm    Post subject: Re: Matteri from Lake Como Reply with quote

Hello,
I suggest you to write to Parish of Garzeno in order to have his bapt certificate or copy from real record
there are two churches there

Reverendo Padre
Parrocchia S. Bernardino
Via per Dongo,
22010 Catasco di Garzeno (CO)
Italy

Reverendo Padre
Parrocchia di Ss. Pietro e Paolo
Via Roma, 1, 22010 Garzeno (CO)
Italy

There are not Matteri in the all region of Lombardy

I hope it helps
bye Riccardo

_________________
Riccardo





HELP ME to find the ship manifest of 1902 to USA, about my GGFather Francesco Paolo BRUNO from Trapani (1860/1938)
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
fermatteri
New Member
New Member


Joined: Dec 01, 2008
Posts: 1

PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 7:16 am    Post subject: Re: Matteri from Lake Como Reply with quote

Hello Jackie, I´m Fernando Matteri from Argentina, and I am searching for information about my family too. My great-great-grandfather was Pedro Matteri who was born in Lake Como. If you are interested in contact me, my mail is fermatteri @ yahoo.com
I hope your answer. Thanks.





Jackie wrote:
I am searching for information on my great-great-grandfather, John Joseph Mattare, who was born in Lombardia on January 6, 1836 (he told his children that he came from Lake Como). He arrived in the U.S. in 1861, where he was a woodworker and also made violins, and for a short period a few years after his arrival, a confectioner. While his American name was "Mattare," in the church records for the baptisms and marriages of his children, John's last name and that of his children was recorded as "Matteri." I have found that the Matteri name is common in some of the areas around Lake Como (but not elsewhere in Italy), and that the Mattare name does not exist in Italy. I suspect that his name in Italy was "Giovanni Giuseppe Matteri" but that is only speculation. John's death certificate does not list his birthplace, and I have not been successful in finding him in the passenger lists, or in the U.S. immigration and naturalization records, so I have not found any evidence of the place in Italy in which he was born. Any ideas on how I can locate his records and birthplace in Italy is appreciated! Thanks.
Back to top
View user's profile
Jackie
New Member
New Member


Joined: Sep 06, 2008
Posts: 9
Location: Annapolis, Maryland

PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 12:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Matteri from Lake Como Reply with quote

Thank you Riccardo! I have sent a letter to each of the Garzeno area parishes (in Italian), and will let you know if I hear anything. I appreciate your help, and fingers crossed that they find him, and that he is my bis-bis-nonno!

And thank you Fernando. I will email you directly. It seems as if the Matteri's have originated from a small area next to Lake Como, so I am sure we are "cousins" now on two continents slightly removed from our Italian village(s)!

Jackie
Back to top
View user's profile
ricbru
Researcher
Researcher


Joined: Jul 10, 2007
Posts: 427
Location: TRENTO - ITALIA

PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 12:45 pm    Post subject: Re: Matteri from Lake Como Reply with quote

it was my pleasure, good luck and let us know
bye Riccardo

_________________
Riccardo





HELP ME to find the ship manifest of 1902 to USA, about my GGFather Francesco Paolo BRUNO from Trapani (1860/1938)
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
Jackie
New Member
New Member


Joined: Sep 06, 2008
Posts: 9
Location: Annapolis, Maryland

PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 1:22 am    Post subject: Re: Matteri from Lake Como Reply with quote

Success - it looks like I have found my great-great-grandfather! I just received the following response from the priest at the church in Garzeno, Italy: "Gentile Signora, le confermo di aver rinvenuto sul registro di Battesimo alla data 7 gennaio 1836 il nome del suo bisnonno Giovanni Matteri nato il 6 gennaio 1836. I genitori si chiamavano Matteri Natale e Domenica Albini. Le auguro un Buon Natale e cordialmente la saluto.
Il Parroco di Garzeno" Since the birth year and birth date of the Giovanni Matteri in the Garzeno church records matches that of my g-g-grandfather, and his father's name Natale Matteri is the same name given by my g-g-grandfather to his first-born son in America, Natale John Mattare (but recorded as "Matteri" in the Baltimore church records), it seems like compelling evidence that my g-g-grandfather is the Giovanni Matteri born in Garzeno in 1836 to Natale Matteri and his wife Domenica Albini. Now I will start planning my visit to Garzeno in 2009! Thanks again for your help -
Jackie
Back to top
View user's profile
nuccia
Admin
Admin


Joined: Jul 09, 2007
Posts: 4375
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada

PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 4:08 am    Post subject: Re: Matteri from Lake Como Reply with quote

Jackie,

This is wonderful news. Thank you for getting back to us and letting us know. Please continue to keep us posted on progress and let us know if you need anything else.

Smile

_________________
nuccia
Italian Surname Database

Calabria Exchange
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website
  Page 1 of 2All times are GMT - 4 Hours

Post new topic   Reply to topic    Forum Index Northern Italy Printer Friendly Page

  
 
Jump to:  



You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum



Hosted By Site5.com
The logos and trademarks used on this site are the property of Gente di Mare Genealogy.
We are not responsible for comments posted by our users, as they are the opinions of the poster.
Interactive software released under GNU GPL, Code Credits, Privacy Policy
TCD_ItalianGene © Gente di Mare Genealogy