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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 11:06 pm    Post subject: Grandparents history/Genealogy Reply with quote

I received this PM today from chasr and I was hoping we could all chip in and help..

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Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 10:31 pm
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Nuccia. i was told to contact you...i'm in the united states and i'm looking to locate my grandparents family history/genealogy. they came to the unitesd states in 1912. they were born in Italy, i was told most likely Bari or Trentino region. I want to get the family genealogy/history, where they were born, lived, what they did until
they came to the united states in 1912. who there brothers/sisters were. I've been told to get in touch with nuccia, that she may be able to help.....
my grandfather's name: Joseph(giuseppe) DeBellis
born: august 17, 1893(i did see another birthdate listed as 1883)?
my grandmother's maiden name: Angelina Zussino
they went to the state of colorado in the us.
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Let me post what I've found so far.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 11:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Grandparents history/Genealogy Reply with quote

From ancestry.com I was able to locate a WW1 Draft Registration card for Giuseppe DeBellis..

World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918
about Joseph Debellis
Name: Joseph Debellis
City: Not Stated
County: Las Animas
State: Colorado
Birth Date: 17 Aug 1883
Race: White
Roll: 1561836
DraftBoard: 0

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Will post the 1920 Census in a minute.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 11:19 pm    Post subject: Re: Grandparents history/Genealogy Reply with quote

Love the spelling in the 1920 Census

1920 United States Federal Census
about Joe Debelish
Name: Joe Debelish
Home in 1920: Delagua, Las Animas, Colorado
Age: 37 years
Estimated birth year: abt 1883
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's name: Angela
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Rent
Year of Immigration: 1912
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Image: 817
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Household Members:
Name Age
Joe Debelish 37
Angela Debelish 32
Joe Debelish 7
Mary Debelish 5
Nellie Debelish 3 4/12
Joe Michelisa 42

1920 Census

chasr has also given me some additional info on siblings and hopefully he will post that same info here.

Hope others will try and help. Very Happy

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 11:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Grandparents history/Genealogy Reply with quote

Heres some additional info chasr sent...


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Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 8:57 pm
Subject: Re: grandparents history/genealogy Quote message
ooops....i forgot the siblings names. I got these from my mother many years back. I hope they work
My grandfathers parents were:
father: Joseph DeBellis
mother: Mary Kolbia
My grandmothers parents were:
father: John Zussino
mother: Anna Marzola
my grandfathers brother & sisters were: Celesta,Mary,Teresina & John
my grandmother's brothers & sisters were: Euginio, Benjamino & Maria


I notice Giuseppes wife name is Mary..but on the census its Angela...lets see if we can locate a ship manifest and see if it the same person...and the correct family.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 11:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Grandparents history/Genealogy Reply with quote

Ancestry is down..I think it might have to do with the bad weather we're starting to get here..expecting snow tomorrow...

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 4:00 am    Post subject: Re: Grandparents history/Genealogy Reply with quote

Hi Nuccia,

Here is an interesting manifest for Giuseppe De Bellis and Angelina Zussino 1912 - on page one lists them as husband and wife - page 2 says she's going to her husband (surname) Aurelio in Trinidad California and lists Giuseppe as going to his brother-in-law (surname) Aurelio in Trinidad California. Seems strange doesn't it?
page 1
www.ellisisland.org/EI...;line=0030
page 2
www.ellisisland.org/EI...;line=0030

Edit.........both from Udine

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 4:32 am    Post subject: Re: Grandparents history/Genealogy Reply with quote

Manifest for Teresa De Bellis (sister of Giuseppe) with her children coming from Plaleschis Udine - lists nearest relative as her mother Maria Cobia in Trinidad Colorado ? Going to her husband Giovanni Michelazza in Delagna Colorado. So it looks like Maria Cobia (Kolbia) mother of Giuseppe was living in Colorado when her daughter and grandkids came in 1921. There are other people going to Colorado also....see manifest.
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www.ellisisland.org/EI...&line=0027
page 2
www.ellisisland.org/EI...&line=0027

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 11:27 am    Post subject: Re: Grandparents history/Genealogy Reply with quote

Thank you Nuccia & all who are helping me on this project. I hope to learn
more about their lives when they grew up and lived in Italy. .... Its blessing

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 11:31 am    Post subject: Re: Grandparents history/Genealogy Reply with quote

be back later -- Very Happy Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 1:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Grandparents history/Genealogy Reply with quote

Some possibilities on residences and places of birth based on Giuseppe and Angelina's 1912 manifest previously posted. See page 2 for places of birth. Angelina's appears to be Monteaperta and Giuseppe's Platischis which are both frazioni or hamlets in the town of Taipana.

Monteaperta, comune of Taipana - province: Udine - region: Friuli-Venezia Giuli

Platischis, comune of Taipana - province: Udine - region: Friuli-Venezia Giulia

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 3:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Grandparents history/Genealogy Reply with quote

The second page of his 1912 manifest states Giuseppe was in Colorado from 1906 to 1911.

Giuseppe's first manifest from 1906, line 23
Note he is travelling with sister Maria DeBellis and her children lines 18 and following. They are all going to Ludlow Colorado to join Maria's husband/Giuseppe's brother-in-law Aurelio Cher, same person as Giuseppe and Angelina's 1912 manifest. Giuseppe's occupation is mason and he is single. It's likely he returned to Italy in 1911 where he married Angelina before they both emigrated in 1912.

edited to add--Also note Paolo Michelizza on line 26 going to Ludlow Colorado to join uncle Antonio Michelizza. Same surname as Teresa DeBellis's husband.

www.ellisisland.org/se...2340090663

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 4:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Grandparents history/Genealogy Reply with quote

Thanks to all for this information...it is wonderful. I believe there are still relatives still living in Italy....i hope to find them. I'm haveing a hard time printing these manifests and such. I will check the printer options, wish me luck..if unsuccessful, does anyone have the option to print for me?? if need be?

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 4:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Grandparents history/Genealogy Reply with quote

Website of interest on the frazione of Platischis in Taipana. Interesting to note that DeBellis is another frazione in Taipana.
www.platischis.it/

Surnames in Taipana include De Bellis and Zussino
friuliveneziagiulia.in...ne=Taipana

Map of Taipana and its frazioni (zoom out 1x)
www.anci.fvg.it/index.php?id=323

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 4:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Grandparents history/Genealogy Reply with quote

chasr wrote:
Thanks to all for this information...it is wonderful. I believe there are still relatives still living in Italy....i hope to find them. I'm haveing a hard time printing these manifests and such. I will check the printer options, wish me luck..if unsuccessful, does anyone have the option to print for me?? if need be?

Bless all
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First of all, what printer are you using and which record do you want to print? Lets see if we can get you to print it..if not, we'll try something else, but I'm sure you should be able to do it.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 5:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Grandparents history/Genealogy Reply with quote

To check for addresses/phone numbers of potential relatives in Italy:

www.paginebianche.it/index.html

In the cognome field type the surname De Bellis, Debellis or Zussino
In the dove field type in Taipana
Then click Red Cerca button.

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