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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 6:43 pm    Post subject: My g-g-grandfather Francesco CALAMIA marriage record Reply with quote

Hello friends,
tonite I received a surprise from my friend Rosario Salone, the genealogist, who went to take a picture to my g-g-grandparents Francesco CALAMIA and Giovanna BERTOLINO who got married in the Church of San Pietro of Trapani on 1836.
This church record is written in latin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Let's celebrate

party party party party party

Their son Luigi, my great grandfather was born after 20 years of marriage of his parents
bye Riccardo kiss kiss kiss kiss


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 7:15 pm    Post subject: Re: My g-g-grandfather Francesco CALAMIA marriage record Reply with quote

Riccardo,

Thats great!

Rosario is a great friend to you so you are a very lucky man!


I wish I could read Latin..where's Luca???

Mr. Green

Hugs

*joins in the celebration*

party party party

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 8:07 pm    Post subject: Re: My g-g-grandfather Francesco CALAMIA marriage record Reply with quote

Intanto ecco la trascrizione completa (devo ancora riguardarla, per cui potrebbero esserci degli errori - ah, tra l'altro non sono neanche un latinista ma un autodidatta, per cui abbi pietà di me)

Anno Domini Millesimo octingentesimo trigesimo sexto
Die vero vigesima sexta Julii 1836.
Denuntiationibus praemissis tribus diebus festivis interpolatis nempe die 2, 5 et 12 p(roximi) p(assati) Junii 1836 inter missarum solemnia habitis nulloque legitimo impedimento detecto. Ego xxx Don Luciano Tartamella Capp(ella)nus Sacra(?)lis Franciscum Calamìa filium innuptum quondam Josephi et Mariae Ippolito olim jug(aliu)m et pro eo Alphonsum Torre uti procuratorem praedicti Francisci virtute actus procurationis exaratae apud tabulas xxx D(ominu)m Antonii Messina sub die quarta Junii 1836, et Joannam Bertolino filiam quoque innuptam quondam Josephi, et viventis Joannae Augugliaro olim jug(aliu)m ambos huius urbis Drepani, et huius Insignis Collegiatae Archip(resbitera)lis xxx in hac eadem Ecclesia Archip(resbitera)li interrogavi, eorumque mutuo consensu habito, solemniter per verba de p(raese)nti matrimonio conjunxi p(raese)ntibus testibus notis Andrea Bertolino, Salvatore Gioia, et Francisco Virzì

Dimmi cosa non ti è chiaro e (domani) provo a fare una traduzione (maccheronica!)
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 8:43 pm    Post subject: Re: My g-g-grandfather Francesco CALAMIA marriage record Reply with quote

Grazie Luca!

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 3:45 am    Post subject: Re: My g-g-grandfather Francesco CALAMIA marriage record Reply with quote




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PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 4:30 am    Post subject: Re: My g-g-grandfather Francesco CALAMIA marriage record Reply with quote

Luca wrote:
Intanto ecco la trascrizione completa (devo ancora riguardarla, per cui potrebbero esserci degli errori - ah, tra l'altro non sono neanche un latinista ma un autodidatta, per cui abbi pietà di me)

Anno Domini Millesimo octingentesimo trigesimo sexto
Die vero vigesima sexta Julii 1836.
Denuntiationibus praemissis tribus diebus festivis interpolatis nempe die 2, 5 et 12 p(roximi) p(assati) Junii 1836 inter missarum solemnia habitis nulloque legitimo impedimento detecto. Ego xxx Don Luciano Tartamella Capp(ella)nus Sacra(?)lis Franciscum Calamìa filium innuptum quondam Josephi et Mariae Ippolito olim jug(aliu)m et pro eo Alphonsum Torre uti procuratorem praedicti Francisci virtute actus procurationis exaratae apud tabulas xxx D(ominu)m Antonii Messina sub die quarta Junii 1836, et Joannam Bertolino filiam quoque innuptam quondam Josephi, et viventis Joannae Augugliaro olim jug(aliu)m ambos huius urbis Drepani, et huius Insignis Collegiatae Archip(resbitera)lis xxx in hac eadem Ecclesia Archip(resbitera)li interrogavi, eorumque mutuo consensu habito, solemniter per verba de p(raese)nti matrimonio conjunxi p(raese)ntibus testibus notis Andrea Bertolino, Salvatore Gioia, et Francisco Virzì

Dimmi cosa non ti è chiaro e (domani) provo a fare una traduzione (maccheronica!)
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Luca

Grazie Luca.
Alcune domande:
filium innuptum (figlio leggittimo?)
quondam (fu?)
huius (viventi?residenti?)
grazie ciao Riccardo kiss

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 6:33 am    Post subject: Re: My g-g-grandfather Francesco CALAMIA marriage record Reply with quote

Innuptum sta per celibe (anche se di solito è usato al femminile, nel senso di nubile): vedi innuptus
innuptus, innuptă, innuptum
agg. I cl.|adj. I cl.|adj. I cl.
1 (usato per lo più al f.) nubile, non sposata
2 (come sost. f. pl. innuptae, arum) ragazze.
Etimologia: r>
innuptus, a, um, agg.,

Quondam: del fu
Huius urbis: di questa città

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 7:28 am    Post subject: Re: My g-g-grandfather Francesco CALAMIA marriage record Reply with quote

Luca wrote:
Innuptum sta per celibe (anche se di solito è usato al femminile, nel senso di nubile): vedi innuptus
innuptus, innuptă, innuptum
agg. I cl.|adj. I cl.|adj. I cl.
1 (usato per lo più al f.) nubile, non sposata
2 (come sost. f. pl. innuptae, arum) ragazze.
Etimologia: r>
innuptus, a, um, agg.,

Quondam: del fu
Huius urbis: di questa città

Ciao
Luca

Grazie Luca, sei un mito, questo gruppo di amici sicuramente apprezza tantissimo il tuo aiuto dalle traduzione latine
Saluti
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 7:48 am    Post subject: Re: My g-g-grandfather Francesco CALAMIA marriage record Reply with quote

WOO HOO!!! You are truly on a roll Riccardo! Congratulations!
How does Livio get all those bananas to do all those tricks? Shocked
party party

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 10:58 am    Post subject: Re: My g-g-grandfather Francesco CALAMIA marriage record Reply with quote

Wow you certainly are lucky, Riccardo!

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 1:03 pm    Post subject: Re: My g-g-grandfather Francesco CALAMIA marriage record Reply with quote

ricbru wrote:
Grazie Luca, sei un mito, questo gruppo di amici sicuramente apprezza tantissimo il tuo aiuto dalle traduzione latine
Saluti
Riccardo

Spero di esserti stato utile Smile Quando serve ... fai un fischio Wink

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