x
Toggle Content Register or Login  -  April 23, 2025, 6:09 pm
Toggle Content User Info

Welcome Anonymous

Nickname
Password

Membership:
Latest: LucilleDZ
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 2016

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 366
Total: 366
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: Home
02: Community Forums
03: Home
04: Community Forums
05: Community Forums
06: Home
07: Community Forums
08: Community Forums
09: Community Forums
10: My Account
11: Home
12: Community Forums
13: My Private Messages
14: Community Forums
15: My Account
16: Community Forums
17: My Account
18: Community Forums
19: Community Forums
20: Community Forums
21: Community Forums
22: Community Forums
23: Community Forums
24: Community Forums
25: Stories Archive
26: Home
27: Community Forums
28: Community Forums
29: Community Forums
30: Community Forums
31: Community Forums
32: My Private Messages
33: Community Forums
34: Home
35: Home
36: Community Forums
37: Community Forums
38: Photo Gallery
39: Community Forums
40: Home
41: Community Forums
42: Community Forums
43: Community Forums
44: Community Forums
45: My Private Messages
46: Community Forums
47: Community Forums
48: Community Forums
49: Home
50: News
51: Home
52: Home
53: Home
54: Home
55: Community Forums
56: Home
57: Home
58: Home
59: Community Forums
60: Home
61: Community Forums
62: Home
63: Home
64: Home
65: Community Forums
66: Community Forums
67: Members List
68: Community Forums
69: Home
70: Home
71: Home
72: Home
73: Home
74: My Account
75: Community Forums
76: Community Forums
77: Community Forums
78: Home
79: Community Forums
80: Community Forums
81: Community Forums
82: Community Forums
83: Community Forums
84: Home
85: My Private Messages
86: Members List
87: Community Forums
88: News
89: Community Forums
90: Members List
91: Home
92: Home
93: Community Forums
94: Community Forums
95: Community Forums
96: Community Forums
97: Community Forums
98: Community Forums
99: Home
100: Community Forums
101: Community Forums
102: Community Forums
103: Home
104: Home
105: Community Forums
106: Community Forums
107: Community Forums
108: Community Forums
109: My Private Messages
110: My Private Messages
111: Community Forums
112: Community Forums
113: Home
114: Home
115: Home
116: News
117: Home
118: Home
119: Community Forums
120: Community Forums
121: Community Forums
122: Home
123: Community Forums
124: Home
125: Community Forums
126: Community Forums
127: Home
128: News
129: Community Forums
130: Community Forums
131: Community Forums
132: Home
133: Community Forums
134: My Private Messages
135: Community Forums
136: Community Forums
137: Members List
138: Home
139: Home
140: Home
141: Home
142: Home
143: Home
144: Home
145: Home
146: My Private Messages
147: Community Forums
148: Community Forums
149: My Private Messages
150: Home
151: Members List
152: Community Forums
153: Home
154: News
155: Home
156: Home
157: Home
158: Community Forums
159: Community Forums
160: Community Forums
161: My Account
162: Community Forums
163: Community Forums
164: Statistics
165: Community Forums
166: Home
167: Members List
168: Home
169: Home
170: Home
171: Home
172: Home
173: My Account
174: Home
175: Home
176: Home
177: Community Forums
178: My Account
179: Community Forums
180: Community Forums
181: Home
182: Community Forums
183: Members List
184: Home
185: News
186: Home
187: Home
188: Community Forums
189: Home
190: Community Forums
191: Home
192: Home
193: Home
194: Home
195: My Private Messages
196: Community Forums
197: My Private Messages
198: Home
199: Home
200: Home
201: Home
202: Home
203: Home
204: Home
205: My Private Messages
206: Community Forums
207: Community Forums
208: Community Forums
209: Home
210: Home
211: Community Forums
212: Home
213: Home
214: Home
215: Stories Archive
216: Home
217: Home
218: Home
219: My Account
220: Statistics
221: Home
222: Home
223: Home
224: Home
225: Community Forums
226: Community Forums
227: Community Forums
228: My Private Messages
229: Community Forums
230: Members List
231: Home
232: News
233: Community Forums
234: Community Forums
235: Home
236: Community Forums
237: Home
238: Home
239: Home
240: Home
241: Home
242: Home
243: Community Forums
244: Community Forums
245: My Private Messages
246: Home
247: Community Forums
248: Community Forums
249: Community Forums
250: Home
251: Home
252: Home
253: Home
254: Community Forums
255: Community Forums
256: Community Forums
257: Community Forums
258: Community Forums
259: My Private Messages
260: Community Forums
261: Home
262: Home
263: My Account
264: Community Forums
265: My Private Messages
266: Community Forums
267: Community Forums
268: Community Forums
269: Home
270: Community Forums
271: Community Forums
272: Community Forums
273: Home
274: Community Forums
275: Community Forums
276: Community Forums
277: Community Forums
278: Community Forums
279: Community Forums
280: Community Forums
281: Community Forums
282: Community Forums
283: Home
284: Home
285: Home
286: Home
287: Community Forums
288: Community Forums
289: Home
290: Home
291: My Account
292: My Account
293: Community Forums
294: My Account
295: Home
296: Community Forums
297: Home
298: Community Forums
299: My Account
300: My Account
301: Home
302: Home
303: Community Forums
304: My Private Messages
305: Community Forums
306: Community Forums
307: My Private Messages
308: Home
309: News
310: Community Forums
311: Community Forums
312: Community Forums
313: Community Forums
314: Home
315: Community Forums
316: Community Forums
317: My Account
318: Community Forums
319: Home
320: Community Forums
321: Community Forums
322: My Account
323: My Account
324: Community Forums
325: Home
326: Community Forums
327: Community Forums
328: Community Forums
329: Community Forums
330: Community Forums
331: My Private Messages
332: Community Forums
333: Home
334: Community Forums
335: News
336: Community Forums
337: Stories Archive
338: Community Forums
339: Home
340: Home
341: Community Forums
342: Home
343: Community Forums
344: Community Forums
345: My Account
346: Home
347: Community Forums
348: Home
349: Home
350: My Private Messages
351: My Account
352: Community Forums
353: Community Forums
354: Community Forums
355: Community Forums
356: Community Forums
357: Community Forums
358: Home
359: Community Forums
360: My Private Messages
361: Home
362: Home
363: Home
364: Home
365: Home
366: Home

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
Toggle Content Main Menu
Toggle Content Last Posts
Last 10 Forum Messages

translation help needed please
Last post by yesindd in Translations on Jul 15, 2024 at 20:59:53

bocca
Last post by tennino in General Discussion Groups on Jan 16, 2021 at 16:56:41

Towns in Frosinone that were part of former Vatican States a
Last post by Italysearcher in Central Italy on Feb 19, 2019 at 09:15:58

Dual Citizenship
Last post by Curci-Ghio in General Discussion Groups on Nov 18, 2018 at 15:30:54

Please Help Translate Letter
Last post by nuccia in Translations on Oct 20, 2018 at 06:18:43

Family in Cittanova
Last post by russojoseph1 in Translations on Oct 14, 2018 at 12:28:20

DNA Testing
Last post by nuccia in General Discussion Groups on Sep 29, 2018 at 10:39:30

Trento -Atto di Nascita - Frazione di Poia, Comune di Comano
Last post by exevans in Northern Italy on Mar 28, 2018 at 00:45:37

Translating written postcard
Last post by mekanic in Translations on Jan 18, 2018 at 13:58:50

Translating written postcard
Last post by mekanic in Translations on Jan 18, 2018 at 13:53:38

Toggle Content Help Support this Site
Please support GentediMareGenealogy
Help us by supporting the future development of this site, or simply to say thank you.
Toggle Content EStore
Community Forums › General › General Discussion Groups › Giuseppe PIAZZA and Rosaria AGRUSA marriage record

     Forum FAQ   Search   Log in to check your private messages   Login  
Giuseppe PIAZZA and Rosaria AGRUSA marriage record
Want to share something new or just have fun? You can do that here.
Go to page 1, 2, 3  Next

Post new topic   Reply to topic    Forum Index General Discussion Groups Printer Friendly Page

View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
ricbru
Researcher
Researcher


Joined: Jul 10, 2007
Posts: 427
Location: TRENTO - ITALIA

PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 5:52 pm    Post subject: Giuseppe PIAZZA and Rosaria AGRUSA marriage record Reply with quote

Dear friends,
I need help.
I have my great grandmother Rosaria AGRUSA birth records (she was born in Trappeto, province of Palermo on 17th August 1835), that document states an annotation she got married in Mazzara (Mazara del Vallo, province of Trapani) with her husband Giuseppe PIAZZA on Nov 16th, but I don't know if that was on 1885 or 1889.
Check below the first and second copy of her birth record





Check below the annotations



Both years have been checked by my dad and my friend the genealogist Rosario Salone , at Trapani State Archive, and nothing was found
Maybe it can be read as 1887?
Is there anyone who has microfilms of Mazara del Vallo civil registration on a permanent loan to nearest FHL? Maybe a search between 1880 and 1889 would be worth?
Any help or suggestion is greatly appreciated
Thanks in advance
bye Riccardo kiss

_________________
Riccardo





HELP ME to find the ship manifest of 1902 to USA, about my GGFather Francesco Paolo BRUNO from Trapani (1860/1938)
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
Luca
Translator
Translator


Joined: Jan 22, 2008
Posts: 695
Location: Terni - Italy

PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 6:07 pm    Post subject: Re: Giuseppe PIAZZA and Rosaria AGRUSA marriage record Reply with quote

Effettivamente l'anno sembra 1885; però devi ammettere che è strano che si sia sposata a 50 anni (a meno che non si tratti di un secondo matrimonio). C'è inoltre quell'annotazione apposta per errore che fa ritenere che non è che fossero così precisi nel compilare i registri! Immagino che tu abbia anche le date di nascita dei suoi figli: prova a fare un confonto per vedere quale può essere l'anno più probabile.
Ciao
Luca
Back to top
View user's profile
ricbru
Researcher
Researcher


Joined: Jul 10, 2007
Posts: 427
Location: TRENTO - ITALIA

PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 6:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Giuseppe PIAZZA and Rosaria AGRUSA marriage record Reply with quote

Luca, si sono sposati in ritardo, è una lunga storia, l'ufficiale dello stato civile di Balestrate-Trappeto mi dice che la seconda annotazione è un errore.Pensi che sia 1885? 1887? o 1889?
L'unico figlio che i due ebbero era nato nel 1870 a Balestrate
grazie e ciao
Riccardo

_________________
Riccardo





HELP ME to find the ship manifest of 1902 to USA, about my GGFather Francesco Paolo BRUNO from Trapani (1860/1938)
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
Luca
Translator
Translator


Joined: Jan 22, 2008
Posts: 695
Location: Terni - Italy

PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 6:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Giuseppe PIAZZA and Rosaria AGRUSA marriage record Reply with quote

L'anno, secondo me, è 1885. Il luogo sembra Mazzara (anche se è scritto Mozzora). In base a quante Parrocchie ci sono a Mazzara, potresti anche provare a far controllare (da quel tuo amico che abita giù) se si trovano i registri parrocchiali (anche se è strano che non ci sia l'atto nei registri dello Stato Civile). Dici che hanno provato all'Archivio di Stato: perché non fai controllare anche allo Stato Civile del Comune di Mazzara? (magari puoi anche provare con una telefonata, visto che hai la data precisa magari l'impiegato ti controlla al momento). In più all'anagrafe di Mazzara dovrebbero avere anche i decennali dei matrimoni: se l'impiegato non lo trova alla data del 16.11.1885 può provare nel decennale che va dal 1880 al 1890 e magari salta fuori.
Ciao
Luca
Back to top
View user's profile
ricbru
Researcher
Researcher


Joined: Jul 10, 2007
Posts: 427
Location: TRENTO - ITALIA

PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 6:45 pm    Post subject: Re: Giuseppe PIAZZA and Rosaria AGRUSA marriage record Reply with quote

Grazie per il consiglio Luca, al limite aspettero Luglio quando andrò in ferie, magari qualche amico del forum ha i microfilm in "permanent loan" presso la locale chiesa mormone, qui a Trento il microfilm arriva dopo 100 giorni!!!
ciao e grazie
Riccardo

_________________
Riccardo





HELP ME to find the ship manifest of 1902 to USA, about my GGFather Francesco Paolo BRUNO from Trapani (1860/1938)
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
nuccia
Admin
Admin


Joined: Jul 09, 2007
Posts: 4375
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada

PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 6:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Giuseppe PIAZZA and Rosaria AGRUSA marriage record Reply with quote

I'll email my FHC tomorrow and see if they can send me a copy of the films they have on permanent loan. Sometimes we get lucky that way.

_________________
nuccia
Italian Surname Database

Calabria Exchange
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website
ricbru
Researcher
Researcher


Joined: Jul 10, 2007
Posts: 427
Location: TRENTO - ITALIA

PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 3:24 am    Post subject: Re: Giuseppe PIAZZA and Rosaria AGRUSA marriage record Reply with quote

I already sent a request a couple of months ago along with the certificate of $ 4 (remember?) and they didn't answer me yet, a couple of days ago I sent an email to FHL and they don't answer.
This is the number of microfilm for the Mazara del Vallo marriage

Matrimoni 1869-1899 FHL INTL Film
1467194 Items 1-2


This is the number of microfilm for Mazara del Vallo marriage Banns (maybe useful?)

Pubblicazioni 1871-1893 FHL INTL Film
1915508



Thanks in advance Nuccia!
Riccardo kiss

_________________
Riccardo





HELP ME to find the ship manifest of 1902 to USA, about my GGFather Francesco Paolo BRUNO from Trapani (1860/1938)
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
nuccia
Admin
Admin


Joined: Jul 09, 2007
Posts: 4375
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada

PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 11:02 am    Post subject: Re: Giuseppe PIAZZA and Rosaria AGRUSA marriage record Reply with quote

I just emailed my FHC to see what they have on permanent loan. We should know soon.

Lets keep our fingers crossed!

_________________
nuccia
Italian Surname Database

Calabria Exchange
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website
BillieDeKid
V.I.P.
V.I.P.


Joined: Oct 26, 2007
Posts: 1221
Location: Illinois

PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 1:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Giuseppe PIAZZA and Rosaria AGRUSA marriage record Reply with quote

Fingers and toes crossed for you Riccardo

_________________
Elizabeth
Brognaturo On Line
Brognaturo Civil Records
Mangiardi, Tedeschi/Tedesco, Zangari, Coda, DeFrancesco, Ierulli, Bava, Daniele, Valente
Back to top
View user's profile
ricbru
Researcher
Researcher


Joined: Jul 10, 2007
Posts: 427
Location: TRENTO - ITALIA

PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 4:53 pm    Post subject: Re: Giuseppe PIAZZA and Rosaria AGRUSA marriage record Reply with quote

Dear friends, a long lost relative of mine, belonging to AGRUSA line, who lives in Pennsylvania, she was contacted for me by Billiedekid, and she just provided to me the record I was looking for

Marriage record of Giuseppe PIAZZA and Rosaria AGRUSA

Marriage Act: # 79

Date: 16 October 1885 - Mazara del Vallo

Groom: Giuseppe Piazza, 34 years, fisherman, born in Alcamo
Father - Antonino Piazza, deceased, lived in Alcamo
Mother - Mattia Ferro, deceased, lived in Alcamo


Bride: Rosaria Agrusa, 50 years, housewife, born in Balestrate
Father - Giovanni Battista Agrusa, deceased, lived in Balestrate
Mother - Olimpia Galate, deceased, lived in Balestrate

Marriage Banns were posted on 4 October and 11 October 1885

Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!
Let's celebrate!!!!!!!!!!!
She made my day, no, my entire year
I didn't know the PIAZZA line was from Alcamo

party party party party party party

I love you all and thanks to all of you my real good friends of Gente
kisses and hugs
Riccardo kiss kiss kiss kiss kiss

_________________
Riccardo





HELP ME to find the ship manifest of 1902 to USA, about my GGFather Francesco Paolo BRUNO from Trapani (1860/1938)
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
BillieDeKid
V.I.P.
V.I.P.


Joined: Oct 26, 2007
Posts: 1221
Location: Illinois

PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 4:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Giuseppe PIAZZA and Rosaria AGRUSA marriage record Reply with quote

kiss

Now we celebrate!!!

party

_________________
Elizabeth
Brognaturo On Line
Brognaturo Civil Records
Mangiardi, Tedeschi/Tedesco, Zangari, Coda, DeFrancesco, Ierulli, Bava, Daniele, Valente
Back to top
View user's profile
nuccia
Admin
Admin


Joined: Jul 09, 2007
Posts: 4375
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada

PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 8:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Giuseppe PIAZZA and Rosaria AGRUSA marriage record Reply with quote

Thats wonderful Riccardo! Billie, once again you come through.

I am still waiting on the list from the FHC. She said I should email her again. I think I will for future reference.

_________________
nuccia
Italian Surname Database

Calabria Exchange
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website
liviomoreno
V.I.P.
V.I.P.


Joined: Sep 08, 2007
Posts: 1140
Location: Rome (Italy)

PostPosted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 1:46 am    Post subject: Re: Giuseppe PIAZZA and Rosaria AGRUSA marriage record Reply with quote


_________________
Livio
La mia genealogia
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
Carole
Admin
Admin


Joined: Jul 10, 2007
Posts: 1662
Location: Valtellina - Near Lake Como

PostPosted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 3:19 am    Post subject: Re: Giuseppe PIAZZA and Rosaria AGRUSA marriage record Reply with quote

Super news Riccardo - I am really pleased for you...
(just that I prefer little 'wabbits')




Please note: Just 'cos I don't send bananas doesn't mean I'm not happy...

_________________

Researching: EDMED, SAVILL, TYSON, NEWCOMBE, STAPLETON, GUNTER, STAPLES
If you think education is expensive -try ignorance!

>Expats in Italy<
Come and join 'Dork and Friends'! >New Blog<
Back to top
View user's profile
Cathy
V.I.P.
V.I.P.


Joined: Jul 10, 2007
Posts: 2681

PostPosted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 3:23 am    Post subject: Re: Giuseppe PIAZZA and Rosaria AGRUSA marriage record Reply with quote

party party Woo hoo!!!!!

_________________
Cathy
My Websites
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
  Page 1 of 3All times are GMT - 4 Hours

Post new topic   Reply to topic    Forum Index General Discussion Groups Printer Friendly Page

  
 
Jump to:  



You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum



Hosted By Site5.com
The logos and trademarks used on this site are the property of Gente di Mare Genealogy.
We are not responsible for comments posted by our users, as they are the opinions of the poster.
Interactive software released under GNU GPL, Code Credits, Privacy Policy
TCD_ItalianGene © Gente di Mare Genealogy