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PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 12:49 am    Post subject: Needing help transcribing a baptism, with abbreviations Reply with quote

Luca, I would appreciate your expertise. I posted this on another form and received some help, but there are still some difficult spots and unknown abbreviations. (You already solved the first abbreviation for me.) Thank you for checking this out!
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Fo [=faccio] fede io quì sottoscritto Parroco della Parrocchia di Sant'Antonio Abate
di questo comune di San Marco in Lamis, come avendo perquisito
il libro battesimale, per ____ ho trovato la seguente
particolare fol. 178

A otto gennaio mille ottocento due / 8 gennaio 1802 /
Liborio Mercaldi figlio di Pasquale ed Archangela Cursio ____
(padrini ?) Carmine Cera / ___ / ___ da Vittoria Matteucci(?)

___ San Marco in Lamis primo agosto mille ottocen-
to ventinove / 1 agosto 1829 /

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 7:36 am    Post subject: Re: Needing help transcribing a baptism, with abbreviations Reply with quote

Not easy: some abbreviations are too much shortened
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Fo [=faccio] fede io quì sottoscritto Parroco della Parrocchia di Sant'Antonio Abate
di questo comune di San Marco in Lamis, come avendo perquisito
il libro battesimale, fin (=fra) le altre ho trovato la seguente
particola (not particolare: the sign that follows can be an abbreviation that, I think, could be "videlicet" = cioè) fol. 178

A otto gennaio mille ottocento due / 8 gennaio 1802 /
Liborio Mercaldi figlio di Pasquale ed Arcangela Cursio xxx (maybe Coniugibus), battezzato
da Don Carmine Cera / ___ / ___ da Vittoria Matteucci(?)

___ San Marco in Lamis primo agosto mille ottocen-
to ventinove / 1 agosto 1829 /

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 8:23 am    Post subject: Re: Needing help transcribing a baptism, with abbreviations Reply with quote

Thank you very much! This helps a lot.

Is coniugibus similar to coniŭgãlis (The a should have a straight line over it.)? I'm not finding coniugibus in my Latin dictionary, but it's not a big dictionary.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 10:03 am    Post subject: Re: Needing help transcribing a baptism, with abbreviations Reply with quote

Yes, the meaning is the same. This act is in italian and not in latin, but the priests (in that period) usually did use latin and, sometimes, they mixed up the two languages. So, it's not possible to choice the correct latin case (I supposed the plural ablative, but it's only a guess: 66.71.182.1/declinazio...la=coniunx ).
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 2:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Needing help transcribing a baptism, with abbreviations Reply with quote

Thank you, Luca! I appreciate the information.

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