x
Toggle Content Register or Login  -  November 13, 2024, 10:19 pm
Toggle Content User Info

Welcome Anonymous

Nickname
Password

Membership:
Latest: LucilleDZ
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 2016

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 85
Total: 85
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: Home
02: Home
03: Community Forums
04: Home
05: Home
06: Home
07: Home
08: Home
09: Home
10: Community Forums
11: Community Forums
12: Home
13: Community Forums
14: Community Forums
15: Community Forums
16: Community Forums
17: Community Forums
18: Community Forums
19: Home
20: Community Forums
21: Home
22: Community Forums
23: Community Forums
24: Community Forums
25: Home
26: Community Forums
27: Community Forums
28: Home
29: Home
30: Community Forums
31: Home
32: Community Forums
33: Home
34: Home
35: Community Forums
36: Home
37: My Account
38: Home
39: Community Forums
40: Home
41: Community Forums
42: Home
43: Home
44: Community Forums
45: Community Forums
46: Home
47: Home
48: Home
49: Home
50: Home
51: Community Forums
52: Community Forums
53: Community Forums
54: Community Forums
55: Home
56: Community Forums
57: Community Forums
58: Community Forums
59: Community Forums
60: Community Forums
61: Home
62: Home
63: Community Forums
64: Home
65: Home
66: Community Forums
67: Community Forums
68: Home
69: Community Forums
70: Community Forums
71: Community Forums
72: Community Forums
73: Home
74: Home
75: Community Forums
76: Community Forums
77: Community Forums
78: Community Forums
79: Community Forums
80: Home
81: Community Forums
82: Home
83: Community Forums
84: Community Forums
85: Community Forums

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
Toggle Content Main Menu
Toggle Content Last Posts
Last 10 Forum Messages

translation help needed please
Last post by yesindd in Translations on Jul 15, 2024 at 20:59:53

bocca
Last post by tennino in General Discussion Groups on Jan 16, 2021 at 15:56:41

Towns in Frosinone that were part of former Vatican States a
Last post by Italysearcher in Central Italy on Feb 19, 2019 at 08:15:58

Dual Citizenship
Last post by Curci-Ghio in General Discussion Groups on Nov 18, 2018 at 14:30:54

Please Help Translate Letter
Last post by nuccia in Translations on Oct 20, 2018 at 06:18:43

Family in Cittanova
Last post by russojoseph1 in Translations on Oct 14, 2018 at 12:28:20

DNA Testing
Last post by nuccia in General Discussion Groups on Sep 29, 2018 at 10:39:30

Trento -Atto di Nascita - Frazione di Poia, Comune di Comano
Last post by exevans in Northern Italy on Mar 28, 2018 at 00:45:37

Translating written postcard
Last post by mekanic in Translations on Jan 18, 2018 at 12:58:50

Translating written postcard
Last post by mekanic in Translations on Jan 18, 2018 at 12:53:38

Toggle Content Help Support this Site
Please support GentediMareGenealogy
Help us by supporting the future development of this site, or simply to say thank you.
Toggle Content EStore
Community Forums › All Things Italian › Translations › Help with date/age

     Forum FAQ   Search   Log in to check your private messages   Login  
Help with date/age
For help with translating documents or writing letters.

Post new topic   Reply to topic    Forum Index Translations Printer Friendly Page

View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
tjbrn
Explorer
Explorer


Joined: Jan 24, 2008
Posts: 487
Location: North Carolina

PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 10:11 am    Post subject: Help with date/age Reply with quote


In the Atti di Nascita the birth year appears to be 1881 but I'm not certain. Also the day of the month for the birth as well as the mother's age is difficult to read.
I am comparing the info to the following atti.


_________________
Tom

Scribbling
Back to top
View user's profile
Luca
Translator
Translator


Joined: Jan 22, 2008
Posts: 695
Location: Terni - Italy

PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 11:57 am    Post subject: Re: Help with date/age Reply with quote

On the first: in the day 25 of August 188? (Sorry) Dragotto Stefano, age 27, states that at 7,40 p.m. of the day 23 of August was born Grazia from his wife Mazzola Giuseppa, age 22.

On the second is the same name of the first document, and i think that the Grazia born in 1878 was death infant.

Luca
Back to top
View user's profile
tjbrn
Explorer
Explorer


Joined: Jan 24, 2008
Posts: 487
Location: North Carolina

PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 12:20 pm    Post subject: Re: Help with date/age Reply with quote

Thanks Luca. I thought 23 Aug was the day of birth but I needed a second opinion.

_________________
Tom

Scribbling
Back to top
View user's profile
liviomoreno
V.I.P.
V.I.P.


Joined: Sep 08, 2007
Posts: 1140
Location: Rome (Italy)

PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 1:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Help with date/age Reply with quote


The birth declaration was done on Aug 25, 1881
GRAZIA was born on the 23rd. Her mother, Giuseppa Mazzola, was 22, and her Father, Stefano Dragotta was 27!


The birth declaration was done on Nov 10, 1878
MARIA GRAZIA was born on the 8th. Her mother, Giuseppa Mazzola, was 22, and her Father, Stefano Dragotta was 26!

Either they are different people with same name or some one was cheating (or did not know) with the ages...

_________________
Livio
La mia genealogia
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
Luca
Translator
Translator


Joined: Jan 22, 2008
Posts: 695
Location: Terni - Italy

PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 1:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Help with date/age Reply with quote

You are right Livio: it isn't the same name (Grazia and Maria Grazia) Embarassed also if it is very similar.
I think they were the same parents, but someone was confused about the ages!

Luca
Back to top
View user's profile
tjbrn
Explorer
Explorer


Joined: Jan 24, 2008
Posts: 487
Location: North Carolina

PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 1:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Help with date/age Reply with quote

I posted the images because of those discrepancies. It appears that the parents are the same but the inconsistency of ages compared to dates leaves the door open for more speculation. Perhaps women were as discreet about revealing their age as they are today Shocked

_________________
Tom

Scribbling
Back to top
View user's profile
Emmy
V.I.P.
V.I.P.


Joined: Jul 11, 2007
Posts: 1000
Location: Scotland

PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 3:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Help with date/age Reply with quote

I've had the same problem on some of the birth acts re the ages of the parents. In one family the mother stayed the same age for the birth of 2 of her children and suddenly got older with the birth of the 3rd child Shocked
Wink The father just grew older 'normally' and it WAS the same family. Smile

It seems that this was quite common for parents to do this.
Emmy

_________________
Lady Emmy
Back to top
View user's profile
Cathy
V.I.P.
V.I.P.


Joined: Jul 10, 2007
Posts: 2681

PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 11:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Help with date/age Reply with quote

The ages for most of my family were wrong on all the stato documents. I saw one man who remained at the age 40 for the birth of 6 children over a period of over 10 years! Shocked The men were worse than the women - I think it was easier for youthful men to find work so they lied. I would not take the ages (or in my grandfather's town's case the professions) too seriously.

_________________
Cathy
My Websites
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
lilbees
V.I.P.
V.I.P.


Joined: Nov 21, 2007
Posts: 754
Location: Georgia, USA

PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 6:51 am    Post subject: Re: Help with date/age Reply with quote

Just a small comment....
My grandparents had a problem with remembering birth dates. In particular the grandfathers. I think this is true for men even today!

lilbees

_________________
Researching: RESCIGNO, CATALANO, MAGRO, ANGRISANO, CALABRESE, GAGLIO, DE ANGELIS
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
Emmy
V.I.P.
V.I.P.


Joined: Jul 11, 2007
Posts: 1000
Location: Scotland

PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 8:17 am    Post subject: Re: Help with date/age Reply with quote

I'm beginning to realise just how our ancestors perhaps made mistakes -deliberately- with their age on documents and I think perhaps I should take a leaf out of their book
I think from now on I'll consider going backwards with my age - it seems re travel insurance etc goes up in price after 70 Crying or Very sad
Re the body matching the age problem Question Question Question
any suggestions how I can turn this



into this


Wink Wink Wink hide
Emmy

_________________
Lady Emmy
Back to top
View user's profile
lilbees
V.I.P.
V.I.P.


Joined: Nov 21, 2007
Posts: 754
Location: Georgia, USA

PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 8:18 am    Post subject: Re: Help with date/age Reply with quote

That's cute. If you find out the answer let me know. (for those over 70)

lilbees

_________________
Researching: RESCIGNO, CATALANO, MAGRO, ANGRISANO, CALABRESE, GAGLIO, DE ANGELIS
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
Emmy
V.I.P.
V.I.P.


Joined: Jul 11, 2007
Posts: 1000
Location: Scotland

PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 9:14 am    Post subject: Re: Help with date/age Reply with quote

Hi lilbees
If I find the answer we could go into partnership and make a fortune Smile Smile Smile Smile
Emmy

_________________
Lady Emmy
Back to top
View user's profile
Carole
Admin
Admin


Joined: Jul 10, 2007
Posts: 1662
Location: Valtellina - Near Lake Como

PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 10:37 am    Post subject: Re: Help with date/age Reply with quote

Emmy wrote:
Hi lilbees
If I find the answer we could go into partnership and make a fortune Smile Smile Smile Smile
Emmy

Can I join you then (in a couple of years)?

PLEASE? kiss kiss

_________________

Researching: EDMED, SAVILL, TYSON, NEWCOMBE, STAPLETON, GUNTER, STAPLES
If you think education is expensive -try ignorance!

>Expats in Italy<
Come and join 'Dork and Friends'! >New Blog<
Back to top
View user's profile
lilbees
V.I.P.
V.I.P.


Joined: Nov 21, 2007
Posts: 754
Location: Georgia, USA

PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 11:28 am    Post subject: Re: Help with date/age Reply with quote

We all get there soon enough.........we can all join!

lilbees

_________________
Researching: RESCIGNO, CATALANO, MAGRO, ANGRISANO, CALABRESE, GAGLIO, DE ANGELIS
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
  Page 1 of 1All times are GMT - 4 Hours

Post new topic   Reply to topic    Forum Index Translations Printer Friendly Page

  
 
Jump to:  



You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum



Hosted By Site5.com
The logos and trademarks used on this site are the property of Gente di Mare Genealogy.
We are not responsible for comments posted by our users, as they are the opinions of the poster.
Interactive software released under GNU GPL, Code Credits, Privacy Policy
TCD_ItalianGene © Gente di Mare Genealogy